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PostSubject: Re: The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed)   The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed) - Page 6 EmptyFri 29 Nov 2019 - 20:33

Just thinking about it after your post Balla, Nintendo systems this decade have lacked Action RPGs or Western RPGs beyond Mass Effect 3, Dark Souls and Skyrim.

That could see Outer Worlds doing real well on Switch plus it's sort of colourful compared to the others.
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PostSubject: Re: The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed)   The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed) - Page 6 EmptyFri 29 Nov 2019 - 20:36

It is, and I am up for throttling my hatred of choice systems and giving it a go (backlog permitting).  I think two of those games you suggested suffered too: ME3 from ME1&2 not being on Switch (we have The Witcher 3 now, of course, which seems to have shrugged off similar concerns), and Dark Souls got a lousy port.

Also, thread title changed because Jay is a dobber and forgot. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed)   The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed) - Page 6 EmptySat 30 Nov 2019 - 2:52

Balla wrote:
and Dark Souls got a lousy port.

In some aspect maybe but it's not as lousy as you'd think just a different version despite it having the same remastered name.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-dark-souls-remastered-switch-analysis
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PostSubject: Re: The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed)   The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed) - Page 6 EmptySat 30 Nov 2019 - 11:46

Jas posting links to Digital Foundry stuff? Shocked I never thought I'd see the day...

What's your favourite RPG of the decade Jas? I mean, I know it's Monster Hunter or Souls, but do you count Souls? Which Monster Hunter stands head and shoulders about the rest? etc. etc.
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Why wouldn't you count Souls, it's no other genre unless Souls-like is now it's own thing.

I do wonder because of Dark Souls on Switch being called remastered and isn't is why Ni No Kuni isn't called a remaster on Switch as both Namco, thinking did they have complaints etc
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PostSubject: Re: The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed)   The Big Gaming in the 2010s Discussion Thread (Best RPGs Games of the 2010s currently being discussed) - Page 6 EmptySat 30 Nov 2019 - 19:22

Balladeer wrote:
Jas posting links to Digital Foundry stuff? Shocked I never thought I'd see the day...

What's your favourite RPG of the decade Jas?  I mean, I know it's Monster Hunter or Souls, but do you count Souls?  Which Monster Hunter stands head and shoulders about the rest?  etc. etc.

Haha yeah, you're right I don't normally like digital foundry stuff but the particular topic of that specific port was interesting. (my eyes still glazed over at points though, natch)

Yep you'd be mad not to count Dark Souls as an RPG, it's full of classic RPG tropes with the two most obvious ones being a class system for the character you create then level up and the fact you basically go dungeon crawling to slay giant bosses. I'm going to throw Bloodborne in here as well just to make the choice between MH & Dark Souls even more impossible, I honestly can't pick one as I love each one for lots of different reasons and if you were to ask me on a different day I'd be picking based on my mood for that day plus I don't think I have to go over these in more detail, do I?

Balla wrote:
Which Monster Hunter stands head and shoulders about the rest?

Another impossible question to answer as I have 3 to pick from.

MH Tri - This sneaks in as the European release was in 2010 & was the first I played of the series, so it'll always hold a certain sentimental value and until recently was the one I put the most hours into.    

MH4U - I said this was the almost perfect MH at the time, also the first in the series that showed that they could weave a more interesting story without compromising that core gameplay. If this wasn't 3DS only it would have topped my MH tri play time very easily.  

MH World/Iceborne -  I think my play time will say it all as it now sits at over a thousand hours.

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The Witcher 3 also deserves a shout here as I was pleasantly surprised by how it gripped me when I played it earlier this year.
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Off the top of my head:

Xenoblade Chronicles
Mass Effects 2&3
Witcher III
Dark Souls (&2)
Dragon Age Origins

I don't tend to count Pokemon and Monster Hunter as RPGs. I also don't care whether or not someone else does, so please don't reply at this time.
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You can't say that as all I can think now is
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Good detailed talk from Jas. Thumbs Up! I've obviously never played a Soulslike, so can't really comment: only thing was I thought it was basically a 3D Metroidvania?

Also you made me choose between SM64 and SMS so Razz CHOOOOOOOOSE

Drunkalilly wrote:
I don't tend to count Pokemon and Monster Hunter as RPGs. I also don't care whether or not someone else does, so please don't reply at this time.

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But seriously though: Pokémon? It's the most RPG franchise I play! What is it, if not RPGs?
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I did ask why but do you remember my video a few years UKIE said Persona 5 was first RPG to be UK number 1 in about 20 years, which I got clarification which they forgot Pokémon was a RPG as it's bigger than the genre.

That much the Souls games are they now Souls-like, same could be said for Zelda as you often see Zelda-like touted maybe Pokémon is the monster catching genre.

New genres start somewhere look at Metroidvania. Personally always thought as Pokémon as my first RPG and got myself (think others) into the likes of Final Fantasy.
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Balladeer wrote:
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Ho. I don't cut about using your patter, like 'cockwomble' and 'wankpuffin'. 

Anyway, best RPG was Pokemon Sun/Moon, NEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXTTTTT!!!!!
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Uuurgh fine. This is gonna be tedious so you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Souls isn't really a metroidvania because usually, apart from one or two bottlenecks, the thing stopping you from going a certain direction is higher level enemies, not needing an item or something. There's a lotof exploration and finding shortcuts, especially in the exquisitely designed map of the original Dark Souls. There is a lot of character customisation, through stats and levelling as well as armour and weapon customisation, but the combat model is robust enough that people do complete the game at level 1. RPG elements, sure, but a very different game. The closest analogue is Zelda II.

Monster Hunter. Level-based action game with no character levelling- stats all come from the equipment which you make from monsters in the very satisfying gameplay loop. I genuinely don't understand people calling this one an RPG.

And Pokemon. Let's get into it. It has turn based gameplay and stuff which is very RPG, although it makes sense in a way many RPGs dont because its you leading your team of monsters. It has a huge amount of player expression and a barebones story, so it doesnt really involve playing a role.
Ultimately, though, all of that is moot. The reason I dont count Pokemon is because if I did, then my top 5, top 10, top 25 RPGs would pretty much all be Pokemon games. I dont care about genres and neither should you. I just made arbitrary choices to compartmentalise my feelings and keep the conversation interesting, but fine lets concentrate on the most boring part.
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Drunkalilly wrote:
Uuurgh fine. This is gonna be tedious so you have nobody to blame but yourself.

(genuinely finds resulting post interesting) Shifty

I would... having never played Zelda II, from what I know of Zelda II, call Zelda II an RPG. So that's the Souls series pigeonSouled for me I guess. As for your Pokémon reasoning, stuff it: that makes it sound more RPG for me. RPGs either cast you in a role or, as with for example Baldur's Gate and everything based on tabletops as a basis (I know I repeated myself sh), allows you to carve a role for yourself. It feels like you agree that that's what playing as a trainer allows you to do. The Pokémon you keep reflect your personality, after all!

The bottom line for me regarding 'true' RPGs is, does The Lady enjoy playing them because they're basically extensions of the tabletop stuff she enjoys without me, leaving me with intense bitterness regarding the people she gets to experience that with? The answer is an emphatic yes in the case of Pokémon. Then maybe sobbing. But we're talking about you, so - whatever works!
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What you're saying about Pokémon is why I've found it to be like my first RPG due to the lack of story, easier party management which the Pokémon basically are instead of a Mage or whatnot.

Then when you want a more challenging game you go to Final Fantasy, well that's how found it.

We've said before and during these genre chat is silly but that's what Jay wanted to do next.

I would have liked to seen the current music thing in here, so I can talk Journey, Death Stranding, Persona 5 etc
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Best Console - PS4, not for being a good console, but the quantity of available bangers win out
Best Year - 2010, a year of bangers
Best Platformer - (2D) Rayman Legends (3D) Mario Galaxy 2
Best Shooter - Titanfall 2 for raw single player good times and some solid multiplayer, Destiny 2 for that sweet longevity
Best RPG - The Witcher 3, possibly my favourite game of all time
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Andyman's back and having wrong opinions about games again. All is as it should be.
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I'd say that's an agreeable bunch of games, myself
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