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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyTue 20 Jul 2021 - 18:52

Yeah, that's why I want them to go in a completely different direction than they have before & I think most would agree that an experimental Nintendo is the best Nintendo.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyWed 21 Jul 2021 - 19:41

I... don't know if I'm one of those most. Shifty I tend to be fondest of the second iteration, the refinement. Odyssey (i.e. SM64 2), TTYD, Twilight Princess, ALBW - even SMG2. That's not to say I don't like Nintendo's madder moments, but it tends to be the second version that really grabs me. By this logic BotW2 should make my brain explode from sheer delight.

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Do we really need to be encouraging mas to mention his opinion again on BotW? Laughing

Fair, but he's gone from wrong to understandably wrong!
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 8 Aug 2021 - 13:27

Ever with its finger on the pulse of GNamer chat, What's Next? brings you...

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...Uncharted! One of Sony's flagship franchises, and arguably the franchise that defined the company's preference for big-budget cinematic action games, it's been five years since the last new Uncharted game and four since the last release in the series. Surely Naughty Dog is hard at work on the next entry for PS5, but what would you like to see in it? Do you want more of the same? Wholesale gameplay changes? A new protagonist? Something else? Let us know!

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I know nothing about the series other than its (very much not lost) legacy, so it's straight over to you!
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 8 Aug 2021 - 17:24

I doubt Naughty Dog themselves will do a new one, it be one of new teams which considering the IP and how Uncharted 4 ended a reboot would make the most sense with more of the same really, especially what was learnt with four along with how God of War was rebooted.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 8 Aug 2021 - 17:50

Uncharted 5 could happen, but these are big expensive productions and I'd like to see Naughty Dog try something new. A match-3 puzzler perhaps? Something that's actually uncharted territory.

I wouldn't say no to an LA Noire-style detective game though. They can make it look beautiful and have interesting characters, and it wouldn't need particularly deep gameplay mechanics.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 8 Aug 2021 - 18:00

Think ND's main game is going to be Sci Fi but they've got a few teams now that one also doing Factions and the other The Last of Us Remake.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 8 Aug 2021 - 19:43

I don't know what they could do that would completely be different. I'd personally prefer it to the Last of Us because at least something not fucking miserable would happen. Story-wise though, there was sort of an "end" in 4. But could they do a prequel? Or go forward in time with his daughter?
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyMon 23 Aug 2021 - 12:34

Well that one died on its bottom.  I'm no good at choosing Nontendo franchises to talk about (last time the entire topic got sniped by the Elden Ring reveal) so I'm only going to be doing those when I get suggestions in future.  On we go...

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Yoinks, it's Yoshi!  A dinosaur who's had mixed fortunes in the recent past, but seems to have settled down into a steady stream of 7/10s.  Is that enough?  Should the next game be in the same vein, Yoshi's Dried-Pasta World?  Alternatively, what new directions should Yoshi's next game go in?  3D games?  Yoshi's Safari remake?

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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyTue 24 Aug 2021 - 22:08

I agree with those easy fixes you mentioned. Arzest haven’t made a Yoshi game since 2014 but the point still stands, it’s time to give the games to someone different from Good-Feel. They made the last two games, as well as a couple of Wario and Kirby platformers on the Wii. Yoshi’s Wooley World felt too similar to Kirby’s Epic Yarn, and Yoshi’s Crafted World just felt like a dumber version of Yoshi’s Wooley World. Looking back, I definitely overrated Crafted World, it’s quite mundane next to all the other platformers and it’s maybe the most forgettable first-party Nintendo Switch game yet.

The soundtrack for Yoshi’s New Island isn’t good at all, but the one for Yoshi’s Crafted World might somehow be worse. Think how good the music is in the first Yoshi’s Island and in Yoshi’s Story, it’s amazing how it’s gone to this. Time and time again I’ve seen that a good soundtrack elevates a whole game. Yoshi Touch & Go is a great example of that. For future Yoshi games, a different composer is a must.

I hope What’s Next for Yoshi is a game that isn’t just a tribute to Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island on the SNES. As good as a couple of them are, I think all those Last 5 Games that are listed in Balladeer’s post imitate the SNES game too closely. Please do something different! The Mario games kept reinventing themselves as you can see with 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, 3D Land and Odyssey…imagine if all those were just a repeat of Super Mario Bros. on the NES. That’s basically what it’s felt like with the Yoshi series since 2006.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyWed 25 Aug 2021 - 21:27

I did know it had moved away from Arzest... but it needs to stay there. Mad At this point though you might well be onto something. Good Feel's utterly failed to make lightning strike in its time with the series.

I get that my suggestions were a bit boring. I'd love to see a good 2D Yoshi game... but I'd love to see Yoshi do something new more. It's clear that nobody's willing to give the dino the budget to make a good 3D adventure though. Aww! (Insert unfunny tax fraud joke here.)
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyFri 3 Sep 2021 - 21:10

Sorry about this, don't know how to comment on this one. I'm just a bit *shrug* with Yoshi. It's not quite Mario - Yoshi's Island might still be the best, but take away the screaming baby aspect and it could just be a Mario game. Which I'd rather have.




(and also trying to work out whether a topic idea I had just conflicts with this one anyway)
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySat 4 Sep 2021 - 12:33

I'm in the same boat as Jimbob - Yoshi games do nothing for me. They rely on an art style or gimmick (ie. wool, paper, crayons) to mask a lack of innovation. Beautiful games, but the 7/10 mantra is spot on. It still feels like leftovers from the Wii era when Nintendo was churning out 2D platformers - at least with Kirby Nintendo have experimented more, but Yoshi seems to be stuck in a rut.

Wario started as a Mario sequel and then branched off into WarioWare where both his character and identity were able to blossom. Yoshi needs something like that.
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I'm with Jimmers and Jonesy, I'm afraid. I liked Yoshi's Island I guess, it certainly looks and sounds great, and I can see the value in a slow-paced platformer with lots of collectibles for kids or folks who don't play many games.

For me, I like Yoshi best when he's a dinosaur for Mario to ride. Lean hard into that, give me a big gnarly t-rex that chomps goombas on command.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptySun 5 Sep 2021 - 13:41

Not sure if it was here or a different thread, but I said about getting someone like Wayforward to Remake/Remaster Yoshi Island
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyMon 6 Sep 2021 - 11:20

A game where Yoshi has to rescue his unborn brethren from an evil egg stealing Billy Hatcher
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PostSubject: Re: What's Next? (for... Yoshi)   What's Next?  (for... Yoshi) - Page 5 EmptyMon 6 Sep 2021 - 20:55

@Jimbob wrote:
Sorry about this, don't know how to comment on this one. I'm just a bit *shrug* with Yoshi. It's not quite Mario - Yoshi's Island might still be the best, but take away the screaming baby aspect and it could just be a Mario game. Which I'd rather have.

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I'm in the same boat as Jimbob - Yoshi games do nothing for me. They rely on an art style or gimmick (ie. wool, paper, crayons) to mask a lack of innovation. Beautiful games, but the 7/10 mantra is spot on. It still feels like leftovers from the Wii era when Nintendo was churning out 2D platformers - at least with Kirby Nintendo have experimented more, but Yoshi seems to be stuck in a rut.

@Buskalilly wrote:
I'm with Jimmers and Jonesy, I'm afraid. I liked Yoshi's Island I guess, it certainly looks and sounds great, and I can see the value in a slow-paced platformer with lots of collectibles for kids or folks who don't play many games.

I absolutely understand all this. To be honest I'm mostly with y'all: despite a few smiles raised by Crafted World, Yoshi's Island is the only one I've really liked. (Story was cute but I was too young to appreciate it or decry it at the time.) It's noticeable that my two suggestions were basically ways to stop Yoshi from feeling like Yoshi currently does. I think Yoshi does have his own identity these days, but it's a bad one and it needs fixing. Anyway, this looked almost dead so I'm still glad y'all commented, even if it was just to shrug.

@masofdas wrote:
Not sure if it was here or a different thread, but I said about getting someone like Wayforward to Remake/Remaster Yoshi Island

This might be the only way to get a good Yoshi game that's actually feasible.

@OrangeRakoon wrote:
A game where Yoshi has to rescue his unborn brethren from an evil egg stealing Billy Hatcher

Yoshi Scramble! Wait no.
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