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I decided not to carry on with Pokémon Shield: The Crown Tundra yesterday.  It was right around my fifth or so crack at catching one of the new legendary Pokémon.  Catching legendary Pokémon has always been the least fun part of the game, and that's basically all the CT is - that, and fetch quests, and the Max Raid Den things that I've been playing through with the CPUs.  I could bang my head against a wall and have more fun than that, and come out of it smarter than them.

My problem is that the DLC in general has neglected all the things that I like about the series.  The new Pokémon to discover have been revealed prior to release, with a few exceptions.  The towns are gone, replaced with expanse that is occasionally pretty.  There are few trainer battles and few characters to get to know, no sense of building progression due to the open-world structure, and - again - a focus on catching legendaries in this one.  Finally, there's no feel of an epic adventure.  You're not saving the world, you're barrelling around an island.  I know that Drunka loved his bear adventure, but it needs higher stakes for me.

When the DLCs were announced I thought, 'This is the way to go!  This is much better than a third version or two!'  I still think that, but I didn't enjoy the way they went about it this time.

BONUS - Felix The Reaper:
 
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PostSubject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts   Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts - Page 26 EmptyWed 28 Oct 2020 - 21:05

Oh what on earth - they put Patrick through that? That sounds like "just the boring bits of a puzzle game"
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PostSubject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts   Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts - Page 26 EmptyWed 28 Oct 2020 - 22:36

I liked Felix but did also say it was the perfect Game Pass game when I wrote my review
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PostSubject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts   Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts - Page 26 EmptyThu 29 Oct 2020 - 13:46

I've still not picked up either of the Pokemon dlc. I know my girlfriend has enjoyed Tundra, getting involved with a load of discord based shiny hunting. I can't say I'm too fussed about that personally.

For me, in my totally unqualified opinion, it's the Bear pack that both most excites and disappoints me. I think, without starting a new game, the temptation would be to just pump it full of the roids you pick up during the main game, since it starts so much lower levelled than your crew.

I think adding a dlc focused on a new pokemon of a low level could work, but I'd like to see them really push the boat out with the formula. If the game is built around one mon, track a bunch of statistics you normally wouldn't. How many times it's fainted, how many times you fed it, how many roids you used. If it's a fighting type maybe it wants to win some sort of tournament, maybe that tournament involves tag matches, maybe track who you tagged with. Compile all these permutations into variable evolutions/stat growths/move sets. Make this bear special, do something risky and different, something that you could only do in a dlc. Give me more ways to interact with it and give me a buddy that's relatively unique to my playthrough.

Perhaps that's pushing the boat out too far, and obviously if I'd actually played the game maybe my opinion would be different. I'm just aware that my girlfriend's Kubfu is basically just riding the bench while it gets to a reasonable level and that's something I'd want to avoid.
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Yeah, no. This is a poor Warriors game.

The Warriors series is often panned for being derivative, but at their best the soothing hack and slash is paired with some light tactical choices woven into a battle that unfolds with a few twists and turns. Sure, you're the irresistible force, you're Superman, but there is an element thought to your movements as you romp around the map. This is particularly evident in DW: 8, which has multiple success states, with the better (as in, the good ending style) victories requiring some thought.

None of that is really the case here. In Fire Emblem Warriors you can directly switch between several units during a battle. At first that seems like a cool change of pace, but what really ends up happening is that you end up having to micromanage the people you can switch between, constantly pointing them in the right direction because they don't stay put... or sometimes they do... they seem to do whatever you don't want them to without guidance. You give them orders by pressing the plus button and pointing characters to objectives on the map. It's not a great system. Sure, the older games had NPCs deterministically do the same thing over and over, but that scripting was what gave each battle a tailored feel. Here, everything is just a bit off kilter.  

The worst examples of this are a few battles which require you to shift between characters and capture an even number of forts from two different sides of the map as you gradually advance towards an objective. In co-op, this would probably work fine, you can each pick a side, but in single player it really doesn't. You have to make sure you capture a western fort almost at the same time as an eastern one. There's no ebb and flow to the fight, you just have to babysit your units' movements and switch between playable characters constantly. Time it wrong and you end up losing the battle. This drains the personality out of any map, rendering it little more than a DPS check with a timing window split across two portions of the battlefield.

As for the Fire Emblem stuff, it's not particularly interesting. There are level up character growths tacked into battles, which pop-up at the most inopportune moments. They aren't so bad at first but the more characters you get, the worse it becomes. Thankfully, you can turn it off. You also earn loot whenever you take out enemy generals, which can be used between battles to upgrade characters in what has to be one of the most irritating level up screens conceived. Every time you select something and pay for it (or choose not to) a character will chime in with the same line of dialogue. It wouldn't be so bad if you were only upgrading one character, but when you're managing a dozen it's farcically bad.

The voice acting is terrible, all the characters are flat, and the story is the an unimaginative and vapid waste of time which has the gall to repeat itself. There is a moment where the crew split up, opening two narrative paths that converge after 3 missions on either path. But all of those missions are doppelgangers. In path A you are mistaken for kidnappers and have a fight, then in mission 2 the same thing happens. Path B is identical but with different characters. I'm not expecting an Oscar performance, or a pultzer prize script, but it feels like this one was hammered out on the back of a napkin on a crap night out to a weatherspoons.

The game looks great, and some of the characters are quite fun to play as, mechanically. There are plenty of battles to be fought in the game, but I don't think I really enjoyed any of them. This Warriors title just does not have the ludicrous charm of the main series. It looks alright on the big screen but lacks everywhere else. If you're interested in a Warriors game, avoid this one and pick up DW: 8 or Hyrule Warriors.

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PostSubject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts   Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts - Page 26 EmptyWed 4 Nov 2020 - 21:28

Ooft, harsh - but not surprising. I get the impression that Fire Emblem's more about the tactics than the tale (especially given the start of Awakening that's the only bit of the series I've played), with FETH maybe being an exception.

@Muss wrote:
I think adding a dlc focused on a new pokemon of a low level could work, but I'd like to see them really push the boat out with the formula. If the game is built around one mon, track a bunch of statistics you normally wouldn't. How many times it's fainted, how many times you fed it, how many roids you used. If it's a fighting type maybe it wants to win some sort of tournament, maybe that tournament involves tag matches, maybe track who you tagged with. Compile all these permutations into variable evolutions/stat growths/move sets. Make this bear special, do something risky and different, something that you could only do in a dlc. Give me more ways to interact with it and give me a buddy that's relatively unique to my playthrough.

That would've been great. I must admit I didn't care overmuch about Bear. The beauty spots bit was nice, but otherwise, yep I 'roided that little bear right up. One little change that would've made a world of difference would have been if they'd given it proper Pokémon noises, like Pikachu and Eevee.

@Jimbob wrote:
Oh what on earth - they put Patrick through that? That sounds like "just the boring bits of a puzzle game"

The trappings did feel really good to be fair. Maybe they lied to him about what it would actually be like to play. The story's pretty divorced from the puzzles.
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@Balladeer wrote:
 I must admit I didn't care overmuch about Bear.  

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Laughing Saw that coming. Did not disappoint. Er, unlike me I guess.
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