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Absolutely not.  I had a lot of fun in the build-up to E3, getting all hyped up and talking about it with friends and family.  Yes the comedown was pretty bad, but I'd rather have the up followed by the down (and, to be fair, having a lot of people to share the down with) than just drift along a constant web of cynicism like some.

Apart from anything else, Athrun, I get positive "vibes" from people who are excited, and negative "vibes" from the cynics.  I'm happy to see the posts of those hyped, whereas those who are cynical get very annoying, very quickly (with allowance to people like ZJ who don't say much either way).  I don't want to be one of them.

I'm not saying don't temper things with a bit of reality.  I won't go into next E3 expecting the world on a plate, and be sad when it doesn't come.  But you bet I'm going to GET HYPED this time next year. Grin

Let's get this out of the way quickly, then.

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I guess it just wasn't the games for me, but I really don't understand all these "Sony won" comments I'm reading not just here but across the whole internet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Sony lost either. I just think all three were pretty tame this year. Every conference had games I'm interested in and excited for, but they're either too far away or not new.

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I better do mine

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You'll hear my extended thoughts in the upcoming E3 GNamer Podcast spectacular (coming tentatively on Thursday), but I'll do this awards shindig too!

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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 8:26

I typed the whole thing out and I bloody lost it...
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I guess it just wasn't the games for me, but I really don't understand all these "Sony won" comments I'm reading not just here but across the whole internet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Sony lost either. I just think all three were pretty tame this year. Every conference had games I'm interested in and excited for, but they're either too far away or not new.

Nintendo likes to talk about games coming over the next 12 months. Sony has no such qualms. As such, this year when neither had a whole bunch to show off over that period, Sony had the better conference.

Bethesda arguably had the most consistently high-quality conference, with things that are actually coming out. But even if/when I pick up a PS4, I still won't be interested in Fallout 4 or Doom, so it wasn't for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 9:37

@Balladeer wrote:
Absolutely not.  I had a lot of fun in the build-up to E3, getting all hyped up and talking about it with friends and family.  Yes the comedown was pretty bad, but I'd rather have the up followed by the down (and, to be fair, having a lot of people to share the down with) than just drift along a constant web of cynicism like some.

Apart from anything else, Athrun, I get positive "vibes" from people who are excited, and negative "vibes" from the cynics.  I'm happy to see the posts of those hyped, whereas those who are cynical get very annoying, very quickly (with allowance to people like ZJ who don't say much either way).  I don't want to be one of them.

I'm not saying don't temper things with a bit of reality.  I won't go into next E3 expecting the world on a plate, and be sad when it doesn't come.  But you bet I'm going to GET HYPED this time next year. Grin

I guess I just get annoyed when I see people in general fall in to the same pitfalls and cycles over and over again when they know better.  I suppose you could call it cynicism, but to be blunt when your every day life is filled with as many downs as mine is you tend to deliberately by cynical, that way there's nothing to come down from if something ends up naff as hell, and if it happens to be great like Sony's conference then all the better.  

Basically I guess I just believe in assuming the worst will happen in every part of life and preparing for it is all.  I seem to be one of the few people around at the moment not particulalrly phased by ninty's direct so I'd say it worked a little at least.   Wink

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Overall a surprisingly excellent e3, sony really brought the big guns out and stole the show with a bunch of fresh and intriguing games.  It seems that this generation has finally started to bear some fruit, and I for one am looking forward to seeing how those fruits turn out.  Might even have to grab a ps4 next year if some of the games shown start releasing.

Nintendo were alas shoddy, but they have one seriously poor e3 per generation of their systems and this was due so I'm not particularly bothered.  It's an inevitability when a system is almost exclusively supported by one company, you're gonna hit the part of the dev cycle where nothing is really ready to show off.  This was that part of the cycle.

On that note I actually have a gut feeling that Zelda U was omitted not because it isn't ready, but because they knew the 3ds game would look awful in comparison.  Just a hunch.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 9:59

@Athrun888 wrote:
Nintendo were alas shoddy, but they have one seriously poor e3 per generation of their systems and this was due so I'm not particularly bothered.  It's an inevitability when a system is almost exclusively supported by one company, you're gonna hit the part of the dev cycle where nothing is really ready to show off.  This was that part of the cycle.

This is a thing to remember. I even said that it was likely in my predictions for this year.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 13:02

Actually now that you mention predictions, that brings up my favourite part of e3: seeing how close to the money we were!

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Seems most of my guesses that were wrong were for the better, although I'm a little surprised at how on the mark my microsoft ones were.  Square were the surprise completely defying my expectations and announcing a ton of good stuff, Sony as well.


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Okay, let's give that a go:

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Not infeasible:
 

Yeah, no:
 

These were more wishes than predictions, so it isn't surprising that the travesty only scored 3.5/15.
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@Athrun888 wrote:
Actually now that you mention predictions, that brings up my favourite part of e3: seeing how close to the money we were!

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Seems most of my guesses that were wrong were for the better, although I'm a little surprised at how on the mark my microsoft ones were.  Square were the surprise completely defying my expectations and announcing a ton of good stuff, Sony as well.  

Gears of War 4 Closed MS so you can your self a Thumbs Up!
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My speculation results!

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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 15:38

@Balladeer wrote:

Nintendo likes to talk about games coming over the next 12 months.  Sony has no such qualms.  As such, this year when neither had a whole bunch to show off over that period, Sony had the better conference.  

So yeah, a matter of taste, as I still disagree. A remake of a PS1 game? A sequel to a dreamcast game which is definitely going to disappoint? A game that was last shown 8 years ago or whatever but still looks a) exactly the same as it did and b) exactly the same as the two previous Ico games. Don't get me wrong, TLG and FFVII are games I'll probably play and love, but they're not E3 winners in my book even if they were going to release before the heat death of the universe. Then they ended on Bland McGruff and the repetitive manshoot 4.
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By all accounts it was a shoddy ending.  Maybe I'd have been more keen on the ND if I hadn't watched it in real time too.

And obviously it's personal taste!  There's no (or very little) objectivity with video games.  When I said "better" above, that's my personal opinion, albeit apparently that of a lot of others too (but that means nothing - a lot of people think that Big Brother is entertaining television).  I'm up for CloudAeris Kingdom, Watch_dog, and Totally Not Monster Hunter, but if others aren't, that's fair enough!

However, while we're saying that everything's subjective, at the same time, you can't say that Shenmue 3 will definitely disappoint.  We just have no idea yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyWed 17 Jun 2015 - 15:46

Also Sony has lots of other Jap stuff coming that Balla will likely like eg Persona 5 (yes its on PS3 but can't see Balla buying a PS3), so it's down to taste.

I don't get the Uncharted comments Drunkas as have you played number 2 and you say you might pick up Rise of the Tomb Raider which we joked in the Skype chat looked a lot like Uncharted 2 and Tomb Raider 2013 did take a lot of influence from the Uncharted series which od course did take confluence from Indiana Jones & the Old Tomb Raiders.

You know Sony did well when the X-Bot IGN Staff are saying Sony won E3.
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@masofdas wrote:
@Athrun888 wrote:
Actually now that you mention predictions, that brings up my favourite part of e3: seeing how close to the money we were!

Spoiler:
 

Seems most of my guesses that were wrong were for the better, although I'm a little surprised at how on the mark my microsoft ones were.  Square were the surprise completely defying my expectations and announcing a ton of good stuff, Sony as well.  

Gears of War 4 Closed MS so you can your self a Thumbs Up!

Oh is that so? I'll admit I didn't quiet make it all the way through Microsofts conference. Thanks for the heads up, I'll rectify my mistake immediately.
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I've tried to play all three Uncharteds and found them to be repetitive, linear experiences starring an utterly unlikeable prick. At least I wanted Lara to live...

@Balladeer wrote:
However, while we're saying that everything's subjective, at the same time, you can't say that Shenmue 3 will definitely disappoint.  We just have no idea yet.

Oh, I know, but I really can't see anything living up to the fervent clamour for an ending that people showed to Shenmue.
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I just want a ending more than anything with Shenmue III.

The first Uncharted isn't good but 2 was amazing one of the best games of the 7th gen, I'm surprised you don't like Nathan Drake as he reminds me of Nathan Fillion.
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He's trying to be a Nathan Fillion, Han Solo, Chris Pratt type but while he has the arsehole side down, he fails at the charm.
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I like him myself.

I don't know if you guys have seen this or not but this has been going around the net in various way of GT's Michael Huber which might explain a little more why Sony are considered by most the net the winners.

Enjoy, also this was basically me as well about Shenmue and also might explain why Cappa's friend now wants to get back into gaming, if he anything like that in the video.
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A slightly more optimistic take on Nintendo's immediate future.  It's a fair piece, but for anyone who doesn't like one or two of the genres (e.g. JRPGs), there's no escaping the underwhelmingness of it all.
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I can just imagine Cappa looking at what's coming.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread   Nintendo Not-E3 and General E3 2015 Thread - Page 9 EmptyThu 18 Jun 2015 - 16:33

It's not looking too bad for me - there's still a few games I'll get in 2015. On Wii U I'll definitely go for Yoshi's Wooly World, Super Mario Maker, Starfox Zero and Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, and I'll have a look at Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, Devil's Third and Rodea The Sky Soldier. There'll be the odd eShop deal too, and - in all probability - I'll not be able to hold back on getting the Animal Crossing amiibo Festival if it's priced suitably.

This year's probably looking better for me than a lot of posters on here, to be fair. That said, there's a definitely sense of 'GameCube 2006' in the air after that. Just Dance 2017 would probably get a 40-page review if Nintendo Gamer was still kicking about at Christmas next year.
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I'd forgotten about Rodea (as it seems had Nintendo). I'll probably pick that up.
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There's a Harvest Moon game on the way too, that's something I'd perhaps look at if they take it back to basics. Guitar Hero Live is out in the autumn as well - at a discount I'd be up for that as well. Xenoblade is the only Wii U game out in 2015 I'm not at all interested in, to be honest.

Adding to the four Wii U games I've already bought this year (Captain Toad, Mario Party 10, Kirby Rainbow Paintbrush and Splatoon), the possibility of getting another six or seven games over the next half-year sounds quite reasonable, I feel.

EDIT: Forgot about Fatal Frame. That's maybe another I'll look into nearer the time.
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