Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!)
+2
Buskalilly
Balladeer
6 posters
Author
Message
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 21:07
What do you think Emio ("Smiling Man") is? Best answer gets... naff-all probably.
Last edited by Balladeer on Sat 20 Jul 2024 - 9:27; edited 1 time in total
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15040 Points : 15218 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Thu 11 Jul 2024 - 5:46
The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11964 Points : 12056 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Thu 11 Jul 2024 - 15:58
Balla wrote:
What do you think Emio ("Smiling Man") is? Best answer gets... naff-all probably.
I'd like this to surprise everyone but with Bloober team apparently at the helm my confidence isn't high.
Buskalilly wrote:
Nailed the cheesey Nintendo voice over.
Jimbob Bargain Hunter
Posts : 4629 Points : 4655 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 42 Location : Milton Keynes
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sat 13 Jul 2024 - 17:17
Buskalilly wrote:
o_o -_- o_o
I mean it's as likely as anything
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sun 14 Jul 2024 - 18:41
Top drawer.
The_Jaster wrote:
I'd like this to surprise everyone but with Bloober team apparently at the helm my confidence isn't high.
Good news everyone!
masofdas The Next Aonuma
Posts : 23997 Points : 24396 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Mon 15 Jul 2024 - 11:57
Bloober get a lot of stick, yet The Medium is pretty good like if that was called Silent Hill: The Medium everyone would love it.
There's been new rumblings around Emio and what it actually is.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15040 Points : 15218 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Tue 16 Jul 2024 - 10:28
From everything I've heard about Bloober Team's handling of mental health issues, I think they deserve all the shit they get
masofdas The Next Aonuma
Posts : 23997 Points : 24396 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Tue 16 Jul 2024 - 12:04
Not heard anything about that, at this rate though who's games left to play? Jimbob's?
I just know people just don't like there games, sure I've played The Medium which as I say is good (still one of the few 9th gen games as well) and go urghh on Silent Hill 2 remake which did look dreadful at the State of Play but then much better at the Transmission, which I don't think many people watched.
The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11964 Points : 12056 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Fri 19 Jul 2024 - 22:28
So, with this now being a confirmed as a Famicom detective club game I have to ask, is that series anywhere close to being similar to Ace Attorney/Ghost Trick?
masofdas The Next Aonuma
Posts : 23997 Points : 24396 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sat 20 Jul 2024 - 12:52
Think they're pretty close to a VN, Balla will be able to tell ya more as he played the two remakes.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sat 20 Jul 2024 - 20:50
I'm very excited about this. I can't see you being the same Jas. At the same time though, I don't really know what to expect.
The initial two FDC games were, well, remakes of Famicom games. They had all the hallmarks of visual novels or detective games of around that time: the interface hindered more than it helped, and it was often quite obscure how you were meant to progress. At the same time, I ended up liking the second one. It was a little less obscure in its progression (the original game got an SNES remake so perhaps it had already received some TLC), the soundtrack had a bit of variety and richness to go alongside those lovely visuals, and the characters weren't all bloody awful apart from the eventual villain. It even had a brief attempt at being a detective game where you tried to figure out what had happened to the victim, rather than a detective game where you tried to figure out what precise command would progress the game.
All of which is to say, I don't know what a truly modern FDC game would look like, and that's exciting! Presumably it wouldn't be so much of a battle against the interface? Maybe it'd be more of a detective sim in the vein of, say, Chicken Police? Or maybe there'd be more of the Ace Attorneys to it? I can't see it being as good as Ace Attorney, let alone Ghost Trick, but I wouldn't be surprised if it took a turn in that direction.
But... you probably won't like it Jas. That's my guess.
The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11964 Points : 12056 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Wed 24 Jul 2024 - 15:40
Cheers! I'll probably still keep an eye for reviews.
Treesmurf Dry Metal Baby Princess
Posts : 4195 Points : 4197 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 34 Location : Manneh
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Wed 24 Jul 2024 - 20:39
I think the news that it's Famicon Detective Club disappointed me because I just imagine Nintendo could absolutely knock it out the park with a horror game. That's being said the more I look at it the more I'm up for this, I never played the remakes but I understand they didn't age well whereas I'm sure this'll have a much better QoL alongside an interesting story.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Fri 26 Jul 2024 - 21:41
Hmm. I'm not a fan of horror games at all... is what I would have said before Paranormasight's opening stages won me over. Regardless, I know that Eternal Darkness is a thing that people loved, so to some degree I can see why people would be excited for a horror game from Nintendo. For me, this feels a bit closer to what they do well.
Only a bit, mind. I'm surprised Miyamoto hasn't asked them to consider replacing the smiling man with a character from Super Mario World.
Treesmurf Dry Metal Baby Princess
Posts : 4195 Points : 4197 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 34 Location : Manneh
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Mon 29 Jul 2024 - 20:27
Rumour has it Emio was supposed to be the strong male playable character for Echoes of Wisdom until the Wokaratti infiltrated Nintendo.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15040 Points : 15218 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Tue 30 Jul 2024 - 4:48
Surprised its still Famicom Detective Club and not Single Adoptive Mother Computer Detective Club.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Wed 31 Jul 2024 - 20:38
Turn EMIO upside-down and it reads "OIW3", short for "oh I'm woke 3" where "3" looks like the devil's horns.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Tue 20 Aug 2024 - 18:42
For those who have missed it, Emio is getting a three-chapter staggered demo. I believe the first chapter is out today.
More interesting for me is this hands-on from Nintendo Life - interesting and frustrating. The majority of the preview is broadly factual or optimistic, but this paragraph just makes me think they haven't taken the opportunity to learn from the past, and so were doomed to repeat it:
Quote :
Of course, not everything here is right up our street. This is a series that's often been criticised — even in its revamped 2021 form — for being very old-fashioned in its trial-and-error design. We're already seeing that stuff creep in again early on in this new adventure, with some choices in dialogue or resolutions to discussions requiring us to exhaust every available option. Again, with the strength and depth of the writing, this isn't something that bothers us personally, but if you don't jibe with the slow nature of things, and if trial and error bothers you, well, it's something to be keenly aware of.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Fri 6 Sep 2024 - 22:31
Sigh. Yep, that was right on the money. Anyway, I want to talk about something Emio does at the end. I'll try and keep it free of proper spoilers, but if anybody wants to buy it in a sale and go into it completely blind then they might want to leave it.
Spoiler:
As mentioned in my LGYF&YT post, Emio isn't the horror game it's advertised as. That 18 rating on the box feels like a bit of a sham. Also, its ending comes out of nowhere. The last hour or so of the main game feels noticeably poorly paced.
Only thing is, that's not the last hour of the game. Because the game then launches you into a side story, explaining how the killer grew up and became this way. That side story ditches most of the mediocre gameplay of the main game, becoming a full-on anime film for most of its runtime. It's also noticeably darker than the main plot, ditching the two teen sleuths for... well. Unsavoury content. This is where that 18 rating is earned.
I can see what they're trying to do here. Those who want the lighter touch of the first two games can leave after the end of the main game. The side story is an option for those with stronger stomachs. Except it's this that so utterly torpedoes the pacing. Scattering this side story into the main game as flashbacks would have made for a much stronger progression, and might have made the ending feel more earned. As it is we have two stories apart which belong together, and the result is less than the sum of its parts would have been.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15040 Points : 15218 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sat 7 Sep 2024 - 2:29
That's interesting. I wonder if it was a late-in-the-day Nintendo decision who were worried about putting out something too offputting?
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26431 Points : 25266 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!) Sat 7 Sep 2024 - 11:36
Now that you mention it that makes a lot of sense, and it's something I can see Nintendo doing. The main argument against is that the production values of that anime film are noticeably high, as they are throughout the whole game. I don't know how easy it would be to put that together at short notice. It might be! Or maybe they stitched the film together from what would otherwise have been segments of cut-scene throughout the game?
Anyway. Very strange, and your suggestion makes as much sense as any.
Sponsored content
Subject: Re: Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!)
Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club (Let's put a smile on that face!)