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masofdas Giygas

Posts : 20932 Points : 21252 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 31 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Sat 16 Jan 2021 - 16:51 | |
| Same with Mario games he saves the Princess every time. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Fri 22 Jan 2021 - 22:36 | |
| Mario still has better writing than the first half of Bravely Default 1. |
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Jimbob Snack Review

Posts : 3915 Points : 3937 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 38 Location : Milton Keynes
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Sun 24 Jan 2021 - 18:33 | |
| Did I whine about this before? Sorry if I did. I couldn't sit through the Nintendo Direct where they showed it off. I put up with a lot of nonsense because I just want games to be a bit of fun, but that dialog was unbearable, and I assume that anyone who buys this game might end up on a list somewhere. The Continent of Excellant? The Country of Adiquot. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Mon 25 Jan 2021 - 19:19 | |
| I think most of us agree with the Direct showing Jim. I think the consensus is that Directs are a really poor way to show Bravely games off! Please take me off the list. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Fri 26 Feb 2021 - 15:32 | |
| Presumably just me who's got this so far, and that's understandable. I'm not sure I wouldn't rather be playing Tales of Vesperia, with its more interesting characters.
Still, nice to have Revo's music again. The visual style is interesting, with almost claymation characters that don't always fit the backgrounds. I think it'll grow on me. The rest is standard Bravely, including interesting dialogue and comedy regional accents that are getting a gritted-teeth smile from me. Still, enemies in the overworld is a big plus! |
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Crumpy Andy Bargain Hunter

Posts : 4528 Points : 4535 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 28 Location : The South
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Fri 26 Feb 2021 - 15:52 | |
| I was close to picking it up, but I've been a bit JRPG mad lately so I think I need a bit of a break. I'd be surprised if I hadn't grabbed it by the end of the year. Gamesradars coverage is incredibly positive that I'm certainly intrigued. |
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masofdas Giygas

Posts : 20932 Points : 21252 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 31 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Fri 26 Feb 2021 - 18:55 | |
| I've got it but yet to play
Tad disappointed in score for Fantasy League because the lower ones seem to go this is old fashioned, isn't that point of Bravely Default though. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Sat 27 Feb 2021 - 16:37 | |
| I'm surprised at that precise criticism (especially because underneath the prettiness Dragon Quest XI was as doddery as my grandpa stepping off a roller coaster and I imagine that it got away with that), but I can well imagine it being criticised for being almost the same as the original game again, with a barely different set of characters. Looking at Nintendo Life's review it reads almost exactly the same as a review for the original Bravely Default, and while there have been welcome tweaks (monsters visible in the overworld!!!) that's kind of how it plays too. There's nothing wrong with wanting some changes, along with the tribute to older games. Even the first few jobs and the second town's theme are identical. Still, it's got a big 'comfy slippers game' vibe to it, and it's been nice enough to play with a beer in hand. Apart from the side-quest that has you going from a dungeon to the nearby town three times, that can sod off. He should eat his lunch with his hands and be bloody grateful. |
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masofdas Giygas

Posts : 20932 Points : 21252 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 31 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Sun 28 Feb 2021 - 11:34 | |
| I thought that about DQXI when talking to Craig as got BDII in Fantasy Critic as you know from your -9 points and that I was disappointed in the score due to the criticism being old-fashioned.
Where DQXI reviewed very well, but I know you for instance think and even myself from what I played its old-fashioned. I can only think because that's what DQ is compared to FF, that going into to a review is it this has to be a great old school JRPG.
Personally feel the same should apply to BDII as the first was meant to be a sequel to Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light but I guess as only three games into BD compared to eleven for DQ, maybe people are hoping innovations can still be made which haven't. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Mon 1 Mar 2021 - 20:35 | |
| See, I actually object to DQXI more. Going into DQ you're greeted by a dramatic opening, an orchestral fanfare, and an open-looking world from a third-person viewpoint that's new for the series (IIRC). It feels like things have changed! Then you play it.  From the very first moment I fired this game up - no, from the trailers before then - I knew I was getting more of the same. I'd have marked them both down for their lack of change, their lack of ambition perhaps, but in DQXI's case the trappings don't match the game. I still think BD2 looks and sounds really nice, but it wears its identity on its sleeve. Anyway, I'm not fussed about what the critics think: have you had a chance to play it Mas? I saw Andy playing it the other day, dunno what his thoughts are? My thoughts are that Bernard can shove a cactus right up his backside.  |
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Crumpy Andy Bargain Hunter

Posts : 4528 Points : 4535 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 28 Location : The South
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Mon 1 Mar 2021 - 21:59 | |
| You did not see me playing it. I only ordered it today |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23281 Points : 22120 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Mon 1 Mar 2021 - 22:30 | |
|  Maybe I saw you playing the demo.? Maybe I got my Andies mixed up? MAYBE THE TURN-BASED BATTLES HAVE DRIVEN ME MAD!?!?!? |
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masofdas Giygas

Posts : 20932 Points : 21252 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 31 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Mon 1 Mar 2021 - 23:18 | |
| Not yet but now I've finished Little Nightmares II, I plan to be playing a lot of Switch, just it might be Persona 5S or Roki or Gnosia. |
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Rum Disciple of Overton

Posts : 1094 Points : 1105 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 29 Location : Scotland
 | Subject: Re: Bravely Default II - Bravely Second didn't happen Yesterday at 22:10 | |
| I think where DQXI shines over BD is the dialogue and voices. Edea, Agnes, Ringabel, whatever all the other ones were called... mega bum. And "mrgrgrgr" sticks in my head for how unforgivably stupid a vocal tic it is. |
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