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PostSubject: Re: What are you playing on your Wii U/Wii right now?   What are you playing on your Wii U/Wii right now? - Page 38 EmptySun 11 Jul 2021 - 12:29

I'm playing some Mario Galaxy 2. Enjoying myself, still think it feels a little afterthoughty but it has some great levels. I'm surprised Balla is a fan as it is much more linear and 2D Mario-esque than the first.

Also, because it goes letterbox for cutscene my TV goes mad trying to adjust the picture.
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I think both Galaxy games are 9/10s, so it's not like I'm not a fan of either, just not to the same extent of most! I liked Galaxy 2 more for a couple of reasons - a prime 'emotional' one is that we'd already had Galaxy 1, so I knew what to expect. I wasn't hoping it'd turn out to be an explore-a-thon until it launched and it wasn't, so I could appreciate the game on its own merits!

Also it has one of the best post-games in all gaming.
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Oh, I thought you were mad in a Galaxy-2-is-the-best way, but I forgot you're just mad in a doesn't-understand-that-Galaxy-is-the-peak-achievment-of-the-human-race way.
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Picking which one's "best" out of SMG1 and SMG2 is a fool's errand, because it assumes there can be objective ratings of art.  In my opinion 1 has better music, better bosses, better power-ups, and benefits from originality.  2 has tighter level design, more interesting purple comets, fewer irritating moments with the controls, and a much better postgame (that one is objective).  I prefer SMG2, and they're both worse than Odyssey. Very Happy
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I haven't finished this playthrough of 2, so I'll withold final judgement, but so far it's reinforcing my opinion that SMG is a perfect holistic package while 2 has some incredible highs but is ultimately too much of an afterthought, and with a few too many linear 2D parts, to be as much of an all-timer.

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 2 has tighter level design,
Not always in a good way . . .
[quote] fewer irritating moments with the controls,[/quot]
Really?
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@Buskalilly wrote:
@Balladeer wrote:
 2 has tighter level design,
Not always in a good way . . .
What parts rubbed you up the wrong way here?  Is it just the overdoing of 2D?
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[quot] fewer irritating moments with the controls,[/quot]
Really?
Yep, really!  I'll agree that I've seen nobody else come out with this criticism...  I just remember getting so frustrated with the upside-down bits in places like Battlerock and Dreadnought, and the camera not always being particularly helpful either.  That's probably why I didn't mind the many 2D segments in SMG2 so much: to me, that seemed like the way to do changing gravity most fluidly without it going belly-up somewhere.
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Too much 2d, and most levels are incredibly linear without even the maybe-there's-a-secret-here exploration of the older games.

As for the controls, I've noticed some confusing flipping upside down stuff in this one. It does an awkward thing where MArio keeps going the same way if I hold the stick even though the camera has changed

It's still a banger, but I really don't think it adds up to as satisfying a package as its predecessor.
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@Buskalilly wrote:
Too much 2d, and most levels are incredibly linear without even the maybe-there's-a-secret-here exploration of the older games.

I get that. It feels like they stuffed all the exploration-y aspects into the postgame.

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As for the controls, I've noticed some confusing flipping upside down stuff in this one. It does an awkward thing where MArio keeps going  the same way if I hold the stick even though the camera has changed

See, that was definitely a thing SMG1 also had. I remember it being a substantial gripe of mine back in the day. Oddly I don't remember having the same issue with 2 so much.
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The main reason I prefer SMG2 to SMG1 is there's less Spring Mario.
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I didn't even mind Spring Mario that much! Fire Mario was my nemesis - duff theme tune, duff power-up. Nowhere near as powerful-feeling as in 2D.

Ice Mario, though, was the bomb. I didn't think there was another power-up in either game that was as fun as Ice Mario.
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This all reminds me I need to Super Mario Galaxy in the 3D Collection.
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