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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23485 Points : 22325 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Thu 4 Mar 2021 - 21:31 | |
| MEAN. ...how much |
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Treesmurf Ice Climber

Posts : 3405 Points : 3406 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Manneh
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Fri 5 Mar 2021 - 21:15 | |
| So I finished Bowser's Fury with all shines now and I have to say it's fantastic, I can totally see where people are coming from with the "concept" talk and as much I'm sure I'd enjoy a full game like this I'd be happy if it were done Odyssey style again next game they release.
How are we all feeling about when Bowser have Fury? I had the odd moment when it was annoying but once I figured him out it made for some really fun bits that felt like set pieces even though they weren't, would actually like to see that adapted further. |
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Rum Disciple of Overton

Posts : 1141 Points : 1152 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 29 Location : Scotland
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sun 7 Mar 2021 - 8:58 | |
| I think I got up to 93/100 Cat Shines and the main reason I haven't gotten the last few is because his Fury makes getting some of them slightly too annoying (picking up kittens that you then drop when it happens because they get all possessed and evil). Otherwise, it was pretty easy to wait it out or make sure you dashed over to somewhere with Fury Blocks to make use of it, so it never bothered me too much.
I enjoyed it overall - it felt like a different beast to Odyssey and I quite enjoyed the daft "EVERYTHING IS CATS" vibe. |
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Treesmurf Ice Climber

Posts : 3405 Points : 3406 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Manneh
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sun 7 Mar 2021 - 20:04 | |
| Didn't have you down as a Cat person. |
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JayMoyles Farore

Posts : 14956 Points : 14157 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 27 Location : Courtroom No. 3 at 10am.
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Fri 19 Mar 2021 - 16:35 | |
| I know I'm a month late in posting about it, but that co-op session with Cappa, Dusty and Smurf was great fun! There was some connection hiccups here or there, but what do you expect when you're dealing with Nintendo's online? I'd be game for revisiting our co-op run at some point, for what it's worth. I'm very glad I chose to beat the game myself before hopping into co-op, mind you, as there we did barrel through the levels at a fair pace and I enjoyed experiencing each level at my own plodding rate in my solo run. That same Mario charm - the old "every level does something new!" adage - is still present here, but it doesn't shine as brightly as it does in Odyssey or Galaxy in my eyes.
Conversely, Bowser's Fury is scratching that itch. It feels much more like an Odyssey expansion than an add-on to 3DW, but that's no bad thing. I've really enjoyed what I've played of it thus far and I really ought to go back and finish it! |
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Treesmurf Ice Climber

Posts : 3405 Points : 3406 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Manneh
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Fri 19 Mar 2021 - 18:43 | |
| I'm all for playing some more of it, curious to see how we'd fare in the later worlds. I couldn't really put Bowser's Fury down once I got started, it really tapped in to the collect everything fun of open world Mario and island hopping felt great too, it's definitely just more Odyssey though. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Fri 19 Mar 2021 - 20:54 | |
| I'll be playing Bowser's Fury in co-op. I'm actually wondering if that's the right approach... It sounds like it's a bit more special than the main game, and may deserve a bit more reverence. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Major Circuit Champion

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 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sat 20 Mar 2021 - 8:34 | |
| - @JayMoyles wrote:
- I know I'm a month late in posting about it, but that co-op session with Cappa, Dusty and Smurf was great fun! There was some connection hiccups here or there, but what do you expect when you're dealing with Nintendo's online? I'd be game for revisiting our co-op run at some point, for what it's worth.
I'd be game for that too - let's arrange that for some time ...I've still not played Bowser's Fury. I keep forgetting about it  |
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Rum Disciple of Overton

Posts : 1141 Points : 1152 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 29 Location : Scotland
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sat 20 Mar 2021 - 8:51 | |
| - @Balladeer wrote:
- I'll be playing Bowser's Fury in co-op. I'm actually wondering if that's the right approach... It sounds like it's a bit more special than the main game, and may deserve a bit more reverence.
I didn't think it worked that well in co-op - whoever plays at Bowser Jr doesn't get that much to do. You'll probably shit on it just as much as the main game if you take that approach. |
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JayMoyles Farore

Posts : 14956 Points : 14157 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 27 Location : Courtroom No. 3 at 10am.
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sun 21 Mar 2021 - 15:16 | |
| - @Balladeer wrote:
- I'll be playing Bowser's Fury in co-op. I'm actually wondering if that's the right approach... It sounds like it's a bit more special than the main game, and may deserve a bit more reverence.
Yeah, it's definitely more in the vein of Galaxy with how it handles co-op - Bowser Jr. doesn't do much. It's very much a "little brother" co-op mode, if you follow. Cappa: Name a date and I'll do my best to be there for some 3DW co-op action! |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23485 Points : 22325 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Mon 22 Mar 2021 - 21:46 | |
| Bobbins. If only we had another local co-op game to play...  I say that, MHR might have to wait (in multiplayer anyway) as we finish the hidden worlds. Weirdly I think we're getting into it a bit more in these! Maybe it's just because The Lady has now got to grips with Mario: maybe it's us both laughing our heads off as we die, again. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23485 Points : 22325 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Wed 31 Mar 2021 - 20:33 | |
| That's 3DW done: I didn't finish Champion's Road on the Wii U so I wasn't going to try on the Switch, and we couldn't be bothered with the Big Mystery House either. Definitely picked up towards the end! Onto Bowser's Fury and... yep, co-op it isn't. My first thought was frustration that they'd done this in the 3DW engine: I can't triple-jump! Why can't I triple-jump?  That said, I did enjoy the first island, and the battle with Bowser was big dumb fun. I'm worried that aspect might get old as the adventure progresses though. |
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Buskalilly Brush God

Posts : 12840 Points : 12996 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 30 Location : Nagano
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Thu 1 Apr 2021 - 3:53 | |
| - @Balladeer wrote:
- Weirdly I think we're getting into it a bit more in these!
Nope, that's everyone. 3D World was the epitome of the Mario "the game starts at the end" thing. |
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Treesmurf Ice Climber

Posts : 3405 Points : 3406 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 31 Location : Manneh
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Thu 1 Apr 2021 - 20:24 | |
| - @Balladeer wrote:
- That's 3DW done: I didn't finish Champion's Road on the Wii U so I wasn't going to try on the Switch, and we couldn't be bothered with the Big Mystery House either. Definitely picked up towards the end!
Onto Bowser's Fury and... yep, co-op it isn't. My first thought was frustration that they'd done this in the 3DW engine: I can't triple-jump! Why can't I triple-jump? That said, I did enjoy the first island, and the battle with Bowser was big dumb fun. I'm worried that aspect might get old as the adventure progresses though. On the Bowser Battles, I don't think you have to do them that much but keep in mind that you can pick things up as Mario, I only noticed this in the last battle I did but it made the thing so much more enjoyable. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23485 Points : 22325 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Fri 2 Apr 2021 - 17:10 | |
| So you can. I'm now up to 42 Cat Shines and I don't seem to be able to wait him out any more, which is bloody annoying. - @Buskalilly wrote:
- @Balladeer wrote:
- Weirdly I think we're getting into it a bit more in these!
Nope, that's everyone. 3D World was the epitome of the Mario "the game starts at the end" thing. Ah okay. It's... not a great thing. |
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Buskalilly Brush God

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 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sat 3 Apr 2021 - 2:20 | |
| In terms of difficulty I really like that approach because it means young kids get the satisfaction of finishing a game and dorks like us get the extra challenge. When all the creativity is also back-loaded, I guess it could be seen as a problem. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23485 Points : 22325 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 31 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Sun 4 Apr 2021 - 11:25 | |
| Oh yep, I mean in terms of creativity. I felt there were maybe three or four levels before world seven that did something creative? The difficulty approach worked fine for me, especially as it was The Lady's first Mario!
I've now got all the Cat Shines and beaten Bowser for the final time. I can confirm that Bowser's Fury did indeed get old as the adventure progressed. Still a good adventure, but... mixed feelings. |
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JayMoyles Farore

Posts : 14956 Points : 14157 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 27 Location : Courtroom No. 3 at 10am.
 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Mon 5 Apr 2021 - 23:10 | |
| I've still not polished off Bowser's Fury - thank MHR for that - but I'm curious as to why you thought it didn't have legs. I think I'm most of the way through the adventure and I've still really enjoyed the freedom this mode offers compared to the main game. |
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Balladeer The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Tue 6 Apr 2021 - 21:06 | |
| Ah yes, it's not quite clear is it? By Bowser's Fury in italics I mean the game mode, and by Bowser's Fury I mean the thing in Bowser's Fury where Bowser goes on an inky rampage. Despite its repetitive tasks Bowser's Fury didn't get old, but Bowser's Fury did. Crystal clear.  |
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