Random Gaming Thoughts Thread *NO NEWS ITEMS*

I don't like Journey. Ambience is fine, picking up your own understanding of the world through what you see and do is very enjoyable, Metroid Prime and Dark Souls do this very well, both have an added layer of excellent game-play I might add.

Journey just feels like a shell to me, you know when you hate something abstract because it is so obviously trying to be abstract? Maybe it is just me haha   .

As for Lets Play's I like em. Especially if it is their first time playing the game, seeing the new discoveries all over again makes playing the game more refreshing for myself.

masofdas wrote:

I did bring why I put in here, I think he'll understand.

And Jas there not remakes there re-releases, I wouldn't mind remakes like with RE:Make or Twin Snakes but these games coming are just a bit shinier and with added DLC. I know some re-releases have had quite a bit work on them like SM64DS, OoT3D, WWHD, Halo etc but the Majority haven't.

Remakes/re-releases whatever you want to call them they're still pointless, you know I don't even like HD remakes because its usually just about a visual upgrade & nothing more.
I can understand HD versions of classic old games but this stuff with tomb raider & TLOU is a ridiculous money grab that encourages laziness.

If you read my post I put pretty much said the same as what you just said.

I just thought what you were calling them was wrong as there not remakes as some such as RE:Make is far from pointless or same if Sony got the rights & remade Crash Bandicoot for example.

So I would go Tomb Raider next gen kinda pointless, Wind Waker HD not pointless as there was a 10 year cap and had some decent work done to it, RE:Make is a whole new thing for a new era.

I did read it & was also agreeing with you.

Vidofnir wrote:

I don't like Journey. Ambience is fine, picking up your own understanding of the world through what you see and do is very enjoyable, Metroid Prime and Dark Souls do this very well, both have an added layer of excellent game-play I might add.

Journey just feels like a shell to me, you know when you hate something abstract because it is so obviously trying to be abstract? Maybe it is just me haha   .

It's definitely not just you.  Andyman will back you all the way.  I probably should have used another game to avoid the "Journey rage" effect. But as someone who can't stand abstract art, that last paragraph makes me understand the hatred a little more.

The_Jaster wrote:

I can understand HD versions of classic old games but this stuff with tomb raider & TLOU is a ridiculous money grab that encourages laziness.

Tomb Raider was a lazy money grab. The Last of Us is a bit different, I think. It's more to do with the lack of backwards compatibility on the PS4, and lots of people jumping from 360 to PS4 - people have been asking for The Last of Us on PS4.

Hopefully the price will reflect this, and it will be a more standard "GotY" edition price rather than more expensive than the original at launch like Tomb Raider.

Vidofnir wrote:

I don't like Journey.

Forumite of the year 2014 vote sorted!

On the subject of HD remakes/rereleases I've really enjoyed the PS2 on PS3 games. I never had a PS2 and I like the fact I can just buy 2 or 3 games on 1 disk, throw it in my main console and earn trophies whilst I'm playing it. I think the fact you're only getting 1 game whilst paying full price (pretty sure HD collections are discount to start with normally) is what grinds my gears most about it. How many people are that desperate for a game that came out last year? It baffles me!

Yeah most HD games on the PS360 have been £29.99 but if the Spanish website is to believed then €65 is £55 okay you are getting that bag but seems a bit pricy even with the DLC etc added.

At £34.99 (adding next gen tax) for TLoU PS4 edition I would consider it but not at £55, plus if it comes out June that's the same time of TES:O which I will be playing alongside MK8.

There is some I would like on PS4 though like a Dark Souls II which like I brought up about if your doing it on PC you might as well do it on PS4ONE at the same time plus it's coming out near enough the same, so doesn't really feel like a cash crab. Or some like a Bioshock Infinite with all the DLC at a £35 price.

 Love it.

Vidofnir wrote:

I don't like Journey. Ambience is fine, picking up your own understanding of the world through what you see and do is very enjoyable, Metroid Prime and Dark Souls do this very well, both have an added layer of excellent game-play I might add.

Journey just feels like a shell to me, you know when you hate something abstract because it is so obviously trying to be abstract? Maybe it is just me haha   .

As for Lets Play's I like em. Especially if it is their first time playing the game, seeing the new discoveries all over again makes playing the game more refreshing for myself.

It's so up it's own arse it can smell yesterday's dinner. The worst thing I've ever "played".

Cube wrote:

The_Jaster wrote:

I can understand HD versions of classic old games but this stuff with tomb raider & TLOU is a ridiculous money grab that encourages laziness.

Tomb Raider was a lazy money grab. The Last of Us is a bit different, I think. It's more to do with the lack of backwards compatibility on the PS4, and lots of people jumping from 360 to PS4 - people have been asking for The Last of Us on PS4.

Hopefully the price will reflect this, and it will be a more standard "GotY" edition price rather than more expensive than the original at launch like Tomb Raider.

I strongly disagree.

The people coming from 360 is irrelevant & sounds like something folk are saying to convince themselves that the recent trend is a good thing, if anything those folks should be asking for new experiences not old ones.

Also the whole reason sony don't do BC is so that they can sell you the same games again, I guess time will tell though.

The_Jaster wrote:

Also the whole reason sony don't do BC is so that they can sell you the same games again, I guess time will tell though.

Sony don't do BC on the PS4 because the Cell processor on the PS3 was a colossal mistake.

@Jas

Well Sony are doing Now, which still is going to make them money as you have to rent a game or do a pass thing.

But at least they are doing something, and buying gakai doesn't pay for it self.

And only one re-release is/will be from Sony so far which is TLoU all the rest have been 3rd parties but there was rumors of a beyond two souls PS4 version.

@Balla

Why did you bring up Journey, it make's me sad when I see all this hate for it as If I had played in 2012 & not 2013. It very likely would of been my GOTY 2012 or at least right up there with Mass Effect 3, so I can why it won so many awards including to me the big one GDC seeing developers vote there not just some journalists at there respective site.

I didn't know everyone hated it! Usually I just bring it up to troll Andyman.  

Of the Subject of the big Journey divide,

Has Sony missed a trick with PSVTV as looking at all the android powered system the new Fire TV looks the best out of the lot. I know the PSVTV isn't android based but is in the same price bracket and can do a lot more then a Ouya and can do pretty much the same as Fire TV with Netflix, Lovefilm etc to stream films and of course would have all the VITA's library of games which includes Minis & Mobile which are cheaper experience similar to what you would get on android.

But with it only out in Japan and Amazon having the brand recognition compared to a Ouya could they dominated the market.

Cube wrote:

The_Jaster wrote:

Also the whole reason sony don't do BC is so that they can sell you the same games again, I guess time will tell though.

Sony don't do BC on the PS4 because the Cell processor on the PS3 was a colossal mistake.

That still doesn't stop it from being a money g(c)rab though, that also shows they should be building their systems more carefully as BC should be the norm.


@Mas

Isn't the Now service for older titles like ps1/2? Also I'm not saying they shouldn't be making money just that trying to sell us a game that's not even a year old is just wrong, same goes to any third parties that are doing it as well.

The_Jaster wrote:

Isn't the Now service for older titles like ps1/2? Also I'm not saying they shouldn't be making money just that trying to sell us a game that's not even a year old is just wrong, same goes to any third parties that are doing it as well.

PlayStation Now is a streaming service for PS1, 2 and 3 games. They may even add PS4 later on.

What Cube said about now.

yeah they could of done something to the PS4 like the 60GB PS3 so it could play older titles but that would make the PS4 cost more money.

Ahh fair enough about the now service as I didn't know much about it, its so hard to judge if it would've made the system cost more as Nintendo have been doing it since the wii (or even longer if you count the handheld systems) without the cost of the machine being too high.

But the Wii was just a GameCube and the Wii U's architecture is very much like the Wii's but with more power.

Like Cube pointed out the PS2 to PS3 to PS4 are all very different architecture, I was basing the cost of a 60GB PS3 compared to the 40GB I remember there being quite a difference in price.

My point is though that Nintendo go about building their systems more clever than Sony/MS do, they (Sony/MS) wouldn't even need to sacrifice power for BC if they engineered their systems better than they do.

Well Sony this time have done a decent job by going to going to devs and asking what they want out of a system. And the PS3 like cube said used the cell processor which now seems a good idea with likes of TLoU but was it was there cockiness thinking they could do that after the success of the PS2 at the started of the PS3's life.

Cube wrote:

The_Jaster wrote:

Isn't the Now service for older titles like ps1/2? Also I'm not saying they shouldn't be making money just that trying to sell us a game that's not even a year old is just wrong, same goes to any third parties that are doing it as well.

PlayStation Now is a streaming service for PS1, 2 and 3 games. They may even add PS4 later on.

I thought 1 and 2 were emulatable on PS4?