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Maybe I’ll update my own top 25 soon, but whatever shape that takes I’d definitely say that they’ll all be returnable-to. Fair enough, I’ve not played the likes of Breath of the Wild or Wii Sports in years (and Bishi Bashi Special or Sonic 3 & Knuckles for possibly over a decade), but I know I’m not finished with them. Chances are that I’ll still love them when I eventually go back – they’re clearly all-timers.
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I guess I might replay BotW in 10 years, but probably only when Nintendo remaster it. It'll be a good while, that's for sure.

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I'm probably overthinking this whole process...

Please continue to do so! Without the sort of 'overthinking' you're doing, these threads just become 'wut no BotW you're insane'. I like this chat!

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That's interesting, as I guess if you rarely replay games then the list would skew heavily towards first impressions. Are there any titles you've given a second chance to and they then found their way onto your list? Ironically, Breath of the Wild may be that for me, as I bounced off of it when I played it in 2017 but would like to give it another chance.

...I don't think so. I think every other replaying scenario's covered though! (On my Switch top 25, Yoku's Island Express and Tales of Vesperia would both qualify.)

There are definitely games there that have dropped out of my top 25 thanks to replaying. SM64's the main one: it was my top game of all time when we began this thread. Then I went back and played it on Wii (U?) VC, realised how badly it had aged (especially the camera and visuals), and dropped it all the way out of the list. Likewise, there are games that have risen, and fallen, inside the list on a replay: Ghost Trick took a step up when I replayed it and was pleasantly surprised how well it had held up; and Okami's slowness was revealed to me when I came back to it on Switch. Finally, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga would definitely have made my top 25 on release; then i got bored of the later Mario & Luigis, presumed I'd feel likewise about M&LSS upon replay due to shared DNA, skills etc., and dropped it; then finally I replayed it on 3DS, realised that it was by far the best in the series (bog off Bowser's Inside Story, you and your 2D platformy bits), and put it back up again!

I think first impressions are the correct way for me to measure most games though. There's a sense of magic for me on playing a great new game that just can't be recaptured, but that should absolutely be taken into account.
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There are definitely games there that have dropped out of my top 25 thanks to replaying.  SM64's the main one: it was my top game of all time when we began this thread. Then I went back and played it on Wii (U?) VC, realised how badly it had aged (especially the camera and visuals), and dropped it all the way out of the list.  

I completely understand this. For years, Shenmue was my favourite game of all time but having replayed it in 2018, I could see its shortcomings more and it dropped to the bottom of the list. But that is one of those games that had that magic you talk about. If I had first played it in 2018, it wouldn't be anywhere near the list, but playing it when it was new and ahead of the curve, it's something you don't forget. I have similar feelings about GTA3, another favourite, but not a great game to play today.

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I think first impressions are the correct way for me to measure most games though.  There's a sense of magic for me on playing a great new game that just can't be recaptured, but that should absolutely be taken into account.

The games you listed all seem to have that magic, that sense of whimsy and wonder, and a great sense of place. Somewhere that puts a smile on your face. That feeling probably remains but it's the controls and gameplay mechanics that start chipping away at that memory. I could almost have a 25 Favourite Games (Milk Edition) and a 25 Favourite Games (Cheese Edition) where the former are immense at the time, but age badly (ie. Goldeneye) and the latter are great 8/10 games at the time, but become 9/10 or 10/10 when you realise they still provide the same experience years later (ie. Metal Slug). I guess the cream of the crop would appear on both lists. I've really milked this metaphor. How dairy.
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I know you commented on the Pod of War Top 25 video, and I mainly went with the list I've got on here which is story based single player heavy, how do you balance that compared to multiplayer like I've not played Overwatch for ages that it's out of my top games but when I was playing it would have easily been in my Top 10.

That lots of other variables like I've got The Last of Us Part II rather high is that because I played it last year and still fresh in my memory? Then I haven't got Streets of Rage 2 on my list, yet I could easily justify it due to nostalgia. Balla brings ups SM64 which I still have in my list as I still think it's great and what it did for gaming is huge like if we were still doing the vault it would have to be in it.
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Look, lads, I was going to correct you all and post the best list, but I already smashed it 3 years ago, well done me Thumbs Up!
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No Yakuza in last 3 years make it???
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Swapping 6 in for 0 is a possibility, but I only did one game per series innit. I'd also probably swap Tetris Party for Tetris Effect, but the tweaks are so minor that it's good enough.
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@masofdas wrote:
That lots of other variables like I've got The Last of Us Part II rather high is that because I played it last year and still fresh in my memory? Then I haven't got Streets of Rage 2 on my list, yet I could easily justify it due to nostalgia. Balla brings ups SM64 which I still have in my list as I still think it's great and what it did for gaming is huge like if we were still doing the vault it would have to be in it.  

Sure, there are lots of ways of grouping them!  I think I'd be quite rare in that nostalgia doesn't have as much of an effect for me - I'm not saying no effect, in fact I do wonder if Metroid Prime is still there for just that reason, but I feel like most people doing this would fill the top ten with (good) games that meant a lot to them from a personal nostalgic level, possibly over 'objectively' better more recent games.

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The games you listed all seem to have that magic, that sense of whimsy and wonder, and a great sense of place. Somewhere that puts a smile on your face. That feeling probably remains but it's the controls and gameplay mechanics that start chipping away at that memory. I could almost have a 25 Favourite Games (Milk Edition) and a 25 Favourite Games (Cheese Edition) where the former are immense at the time, but age badly (ie. Goldeneye) and the latter are great 8/10 games at the time, but become 9/10 or 10/10 when you realise they still provide the same experience years later (ie. Metal Slug).

The sense of place is definitely a big thing for me.  Regarding milk and cheese, the one game in my top few that I'm concerned is a milk game, as mentioned above, is Metroid Prime.  I loved it, but I played it with a walkthrough when I had much more time.  I'm looking forward to, but also slightly dreading, replaying that one when it comes to Switch.  I think all my games are milk games apart from M&LSS though!

@gjones wrote:
I guess the cream of the crop would appear on both lists. I've really milked this metaphor. How dairy.

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