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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25920 Points : 24755 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 34 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Wed 31 May 2023 - 19:58 | |
| I really don't. I play a lot of games on Switch and before that, even so recently as the 3DS, my line-ups were quite sparse. The eShop really has skewed my buying habits!
Anyway, I've now come up with the list. At some point I'll put it into picture form because nobody wants to read 100 game titles, only to find Infinite Space at 90. Well, Andy doesn't anyway. |
|  | | masofdas The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Wed 31 May 2023 - 20:49 | |
| I do well not a list but pictures and see if other things like Infinite Space that I may check out. |
|  | | gjones Disciple of Scullion

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Fri 16 Jun 2023 - 21:23 | |
| Currently rinsing Forza Horizon 4 - thanks Mas! It's a bit Ubisoft with its map, but an utter delight driving around Edinburgh. I can see why it's rated so highly. |
|  | | masofdas The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Fri 16 Jun 2023 - 21:40 | |
| Forza Horizon 5 has also gone into my Top 100 around the 60s.
Waiting on the Balla list but did go back through yours gJones and others to make a bit if wants list which I already bought Outrun 2 and Klonoa. |
|  | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Fri 16 Jun 2023 - 22:15 | |
| All right. It's time. Balladeer's Top Hundred Games That He's Played Of Interest To Maybe Two People Here Number 94 will surprise you! Unfortunately I have no idea how to make them all into one image like Mas so you'll have to click through to the link. That's definitely the easiest way to digest 100 games: however, that site has flaws. Flaws like, using the American names over the clearly superior British ones, or only letting you pick one game where it obviously should be two, or in one case (no. 49) flagging what was effectively the game's menu rather than the game itself. So, for the certifiable, I include below in text my Top Hundred Games That I've Played Not Including Tears Of The Kingdom And Its Knock-On Effects. - Words everywhere:
1 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 Super Mario Odyssey 3 Paper Mario and the Thousand-Year Door 4 Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective 5 Metroid Prime (Remastered) 6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 7 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 8 Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe) 9 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (3D) 10 Meteos 11 Celeste ~ (9.5 out of 10, dividing line) ~ 12 The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap 13 Untitled Goose Game 14 Ace Attorney Trials & Tribulations 15 Muramasa: the Demon Blade 16 The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 17 Xenoblade Chronicles 3 18 Kid Icarus Uprising 19 NEO The World Ends With You 20 Super Mario Galaxy 2 21 Ace Attorney Spirit of Justice 22 Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 23 Kirby’s Epic Yarn 24 Okami 25 The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (HD) 26 Pokémon (Heart) Gold/(Soul) Silver 27 Bravely Second 28 Xenoblade Chronicles 2 29 Mario Tennis 30 Super Mario Galaxy 31 Ace Attorney Investigations 2 32 A Hat in Time 33 Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure 34 The House in Fata Morgana 35 Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin 36 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 37 Beat the Beat: Rhythm Paradise 38 What The Golf? 39 Gunstar Heroes 40 Mario Kart Double Dash!! ~ (8.5 out of 10, dividing line) ~ 41 Last Window: the Secret of Cape West 42 Ever Oasis 43 Hotel Dusk: Room 215 44 The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures 45 Beast Breaker 46 Mario Golf Toadstool Tour 47 Pokémon Legends Arceus 48 Overcooked 2 49 Streetpass Puzzle Swap 50 Undertale 51 Super Mario 64 52 Final Fantasy IV 53 Super Mario Sunshine 54 Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island 55 Super Mario 3D World (+ Bowser’s Fury) 56 Professor Layton and the Lost Future 57 WarioWare Touched! 58 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 59 Xenoblade Chronicles (Definitive Edition) 60 Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 61 There Is No Game: Wrong Dimension 62 Super Mario World 63 Pokémon Sun/Moon 64 Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch 65 Soul Calibur II 66 Metroid Dread 67 F-Zero GX 68 The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles 69 Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze 70 Okamiden 71 Rayman Legends 72 Paper Mario 73 Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy 74 Super Monkey Ball 2 75 Wii Sports Resort 76 Ys IX: Monstrum Nox 77 Kirby: Power Paintbrush 78 Darkside Detective 2 79 Tales of Vesperia 80 Yoku’s Island Express 81 Guacamelee 82 Super Paper Mario 83 Child of Light 84 The Last Story 85 Wario World 86 Super Mario RPG 87 Murder by Numbers 88 Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 89 Mario Power Tennis 90 Luigi’s Mansion 3 91 Final Fantasy III DS 92 Ikenfell 93 The World Ends With You 94 3D Pinball for Windows: Space Cadet 95 Nobody Saves the World 96 Pokémon Black/White 97 Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom 98 Luigi’s Mansion 99 Picross 3D Round 2 100 Mother 3
There now follow a bunch of numerical analyses of my own games because I'm a massive nerd. Please don't pedant at them unless your correction will materially change anything (looking at you Mas (even if you're probably the only person who'll open these spoilers)). - Analysis by platform:
All games are given based on the first Nintendo platform they showed up on where possible (Virtual Consoles et al. don't count), with one exception.
1 each: Game Boy Colour, Mega Drive, Windows 3 GBA 4 SNES 5 N64 6 Wii U 9 3DS 11 Wii 14 GameCube 16 DS (including FFIIIDS - look I never would have played the NES version, ever) 29 Switch
Notable omissions: NES on a technicality, Game Boy likewise
- Analysis by genre:
I've tried to fit everything into a genre. Yes you'll disagree with some of the assignments. Heck, I disagree with some of the assignments (is pinball a sport?). I don't care.
1 each: stealth, rhythm, run-and-gun, party, chance, minigames 2: action/brawler (inc KIU) 2: fighting 3: racing 5: puzzle (inc Murder by Numbers) 5: adventure/point-and-click (inc Hotel Dusk) 6: sports (inc 3D Pinball, What the Golf?) 6: visual novel (inc Ace Attorney) 6: Metroidvania 15: action-adventure 16: platformer 27: JRPG (inc Beast Breaker) and 1 of whatever Monkey Ball 2 is. Mostly a party game for me to be honest.
Notable omissions: WRPG, strategy, any form of pure shooter (although KIU and Gunstar Heroes are tenuous)
- Analysis by company:
Usually the publisher. Some issues where publishers merge, or where there are different publishers in different countries. Resolved by who owns the IP now if I could find it out and it made sense, and after that my own whimsy.
1 each: Falcom, EA, Maxis (pre-merger) 2: UbiSoft (f**kin' boo) 2: Drinkbox 2: Team 17 2: Sega 2: Marvelous 3: Level-5 3: Namco Bandai (inc Meteos) 4: The Pokémon Company 5: Square Enix 8: Capcom 52: Nintendo (is that all?) and 12 other indies, making the total indie count 16 if you include Drinkbox and Team 17.
Notable omissions: Atlus
- Analysis by franchise:
2 each: TWEWY, Kirby, Okami, Hotel Dusk, Mii, Layton, Wario(Ware), Final Fantasy, Luigi's Mansion 3: Xenoblade 3: Metroid (of which 2 Prime) 4: Pokémon 5: Ace Attorney 5: Mario competitions (of which 2 Kart) 6: Mario RPG 7: Mario (excl Yoshi's Island) 8: Zelda and 16 games that were the only ones in their IP, leaving 25 games that are the only entries in their franchise to make the list.
Notable omissions: Starfox, Fire Emblem, Mario Party
And finally, some remarks from me on the list in general and the stats. Honestly you should skip the five spoilers above and come straight here. - Comments:
It's a lot duller than I hoped for to be honest. I think you can see the pattern where I only really get into Nintendo games until I hit the DS, then branch out a bit (mostly into JRPGs) but Nintendo still dwarfs the competition with its quality, and then starting on Wii U but exploding on Switch I play a lot more third-party stuff and smaller games. Of those 16 indie games, 15 are on Switch (and then Guacamelee on Wii U).
My enthusiasm line is somewhere between game 50 and 57. Games 49 and above I'll be a bit of an evangelist for, games 58 and below - well they're all good, but I won't sing their praises nearly as much. Apart from 3D Pinball obviously, that was a belter of a freebie. Eat yer heart out Wii Sports.
That hundredth game could have been Pokémon Stadium 2, WarioWare, Picross 3D, or Luigi's Mansion 2 - and was at times. It'll likely have shifted again by the time you read this.
Platform analysis isn't anything too surprising I don't think: Switch far and away ahead because of my recency bias, DS and GameCube shortly after, and then a drop-off that gets starker as the tech gets older. Neither are the big-ticket items in genre (although Mario and dubious genre choices mean sports games is healthier than I thought) or company (Nintendo with an overpowering emphasis, Capcom a creditable AA-fuelled second). Zelda pips mainline Mario to the post in franchises, although of course Mario's reach is far broader (and arguments can and will rage over Yoshi's Island, mostly from Mas).
Things I'm surprised not to see more of: rhythm games, Pokémon games, Namco Bandai, Square Enix.
My final thought is saved for Mario RPGs. At 6 games, the third-most of any 'franchise' by my questionable definition, yet unlikely to ever add to that number. Alphadream has gone, and Paper Mario doesn't do RPGs any more. A properly great branch of game, lost to a company that didn't really know what to do with it. I love Nintendo but they can be very silly sometimes.
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|  | | masofdas The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Sat 17 Jun 2023 - 0:16 | |
| Odd you've had issues with the site. I don't know about gJones and Cappa, but I've found it to be real easy to you use, and because of that made loads of lists like Top PS2 or Top 6th gen lists. Like the stats part as who doesn't love a list, mine looks like this - Systems:
As in the first system I played it on e.g. OoT is GameCube to me not N64 and OoT3D the better version now.
12 PS4 11 Cube 8 PS2 8 Xbox 7 PS3 7 Switch 6 PS1 6 XBONE 6 360 4 Mega Drive 4 Dreamcast 3 WiiU 2 3DS 2 VITA 2 DS 2 PSP 2 NES 1 SNES 1 N64 1 GameBoy 1 GBA 1 XSX 1 NGPC 1 Moblie 1 Wii
37 PlayStation, 32 Nintendo, 21 Xbox, 8 SEGA, 2 Other
- Genre:
My views on the genre, looks at Zelda being Action-RPG not Action Adventure like Uncharted
15 JRPG 10 Action Adventure 9 Adventure 9 Platformer 7 Action RPG 5 Tactical Espionage Action 5 Western RPG 5 Fighting 5 Survival Horror 5 Metroidvania 4 Racing 4 FPS 3 Character Action 2 S/TRPG 2 Third-Person Shooter 2 Puzzle 2 Beat 'em up 1 Stranding 1 Brawler 1 Visual Novel 1 Hunting RPG 1 Stealth 1 RTS
- Company and Region:
29 Nintendo (3 Game Freak, 2 Intelligent Systems, 1 Monolith Soft, 1 Platinum, 1 Mistwalker, 1 Silicon Knights, 1 Mercury Steam) 11 PlayStation (4 Naughty Dog, 2 Santa Monica, 1 Kojima, 2 Team ICO, 1 thatgamecompany, 1 Guerilla) 10 Xbox (3 Bungie, 2 Playground, 2 Bioware, 2 Moon Studios, 1 Lionhead, 1 Insomniac) 9 Konami (5 Kojima) 8 Square (1 Don't Nod) 7 Capcom (1 Clover) 5 SEGA (2 Sonic Team) 3 Atlus 3 Namco 2 2K/Take-Two (1 Rockstar) 2 Ubisoft 2 Telltale 1 Campo Santo 1 EA (1 Bioware) 1 Annapurna 1 505 (1 Remedy) 1 Koei Tecmo (1 Team Ninja) 1 Bethesda 1 Valve 1 Midway (1 NetherRealm) 1 WB (1 Rocksteady)
64 Japanese 24 North America 9 Europe 3 Australian
- IP:
41 One Entry 9 Mario (All) 5 Zelda 5 Metal Gear 3 Persona 3 Final Fantasy 3 Halo 3 Resident Evil 3 Pokémon 3 Kingdom Hearts 2 The Last of Us 2 Fire Emblem 2 Forza 2 God of War 2 Uncharted 2 Sonic 2 Shenmue 2 SoulCalibur 2 Telltale 2 Ori 2 Silent Hill
Think we share 20 games Balla, but you've got ones I do like a lot on there like Ni No Kuni which I think I had in my Top 300+ before I narrowed down and things I want to play such as Muramasa which on the wants list I made and others I hope maybe get a remaster like Prime 2 or go on sale like Fata Morgana. Will say FFIV seems an odd one and not VI, like I get III due to the remaster. I like these lists a lot, and have said in the past that gJones list might have the most variety, but I think if I had yours I would have a great time as I do like a Nintendo JRPG. |
|  | | Jimbob Rotating Platform

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Sun 18 Jun 2023 - 9:57 | |
| Blimey that's some good stat-ing guys. I can't do mine as I'm up to 921 now  One thing I have been keeping (I think this stems from the "best year in gaming" thread!) is the year each game is released. Pleasing I'm finding it's not just nostalgia; I play fewer games in these times, but the ones I am playing are breaking into top lists. Games are getting better, people! |
|  | | gjones Disciple of Scullion

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Sun 18 Jun 2023 - 14:55 | |
| Ironic that Balladeer's list couldn't appear visually, as the most striking thing about it is the artwork for each game. It's very colourful, driven by characters/mascots and I suspect 90% of the games are Japanese. It's probably the most interesting list here, which has a lot in common with what the Top 100 Official Nintendo Magazine did in their final issues. On the one hand, it's blinkered by being Nintendo only, but on the other, it demonstrates how rich the libraries of Nintendo consoles can be, and perhaps aren't always credited for being. |
|  | | The Cappuccino Kid Lumen Sage

Posts : 6515 Points : 6672 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 104 Location : East of Mombasa
 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Sun 18 Jun 2023 - 20:06 | |
| The thing about Balladeer’s list is: it’s proof that he’s never played SSX Tricky. |
|  | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Wed 21 Jun 2023 - 22:03 | |
| And with a bit of luck never will. - gjones wrote:
- It's probably the most interesting list here, which has a lot in common with what the Top 100 Official Nintendo Magazine did in their final issues. On the one hand, it's blinkered by being Nintendo only, but on the other, it demonstrates how rich the libraries of Nintendo consoles can be, and perhaps aren't always credited for being.
Ooft, kind! I thought it was quite dull myself, up until the Switch anyway. I think the Switch's indie explosion is definitely responsible for a lot of that richness. I will say that I definitely don't feel like I need another machine, from a time perspective anyway. There's so much to play on Switch. (JRPGs being my most-played genre helps there, natch.) - gjones wrote:
- Ironic that Balladeer's list couldn't appear visually, as the most striking thing about it is the artwork for each game. It's very colourful, driven by characters/mascots and I suspect 90% of the games are Japanese.
You're probably not far off: 80 of them are from big Japanese publishers, not sure about the indies. I've always had a fondness for the colourful over the grim or the realistic! That's another reason why I'm not that fussed about missing out on the other platforms, not since the Dreamcast anyway. If I were going to get another machine this generation it'd be a Playdate. - masofdas wrote:
- Odd you've had issues with the site. I don't know about gJones and Cappa, but I've found it to be real easy to you use, and because of that made loads of lists like Top PS2 or Top 6th gen lists.
Bastard thing just kept restarting mid-list. Maybe it didn't like my cookie settings. You having a slant towards Sony doesn't surprise me at all, although the companies redress that somewhat! ('9 Konami 5 Kojima' is peak Mas.) You do like a Nintendo RPG, after all. Quite funny that, despite that and our (largely but not entirely!) different lists, we have much the same taste in genres. - masofdas wrote:
- Will say FFIV seems an odd one and not VI, like I get III due to the remaster.
Much though I love exploration, my favourite kinds of games have tightly designed linear experiences in broader explorable worlds. I like open worlds and freedom a lot less than I like scripted, hand-crafted paths. BotW and TotK are exceptions, because (each story path within them has more scripting and) their worlds are vibrant and beautiful. FFVI's second half does not have this same quality. - Jimbob wrote:
- One thing I have been keeping (I think this stems from the "best year in gaming" thread!) is the year each game is released. Pleasing I'm finding it's not just nostalgia; I play fewer games in these times, but the ones I am playing are breaking into top lists. Games are getting better, people!
Yes! This!  Oh and I've already decided that Last Window is at least five places too low. |
|  | | masofdas The Next Aonuma

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Wed 21 Jun 2023 - 22:59 | |
| Did I see elsewhere FFIV was on DS?
Yeah, Japanese! Games for me this year out of the 32 things I've finished this half been Japanese and not sure all the indies where from, and 16 things on Nintendo.
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|  | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

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 | Subject: Re: Your actual top 10/20/25/50/100/200 games - have you ever? Sat 24 Jun 2023 - 18:48 | |
| It is... I don't like the DS version as much. They've got rid of the massive post-game dungeons and the ability to play as all the characters in the ending that the GBA version had, and the voice acting ain't that great. GBA version is best for me. |
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