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Rum Disciple of Greener

Posts : 1474 Points : 1490 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 31 Location : Edinburgh
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25900 Points : 24733 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 34 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Fri 2 Apr 2021 - 17:15 | |
| Oh good, The Most Confident Man On Earth has another thing to make him confident. Management should have taken you out back and shot you, to be a lesson to us all.
Nah, congrats Buska! Sounds like it was well deserved. What will the new duties be, or will you be doing all the stuff you've been doing anyway and just getting more recognition for it? |
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Jimbob Rotating Platform

Posts : 4470 Points : 4495 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Milton Keynes
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Fri 2 Apr 2021 - 20:25 | |
| @Buskalilly well done - it would just be nice if there were more places in the world where it felt like it was worth doing a good job like that @masofdas take it easy there - don't worry too much about Asda, but - and I know it's not my place to say, I just worry when I see the I/O just on this forum - maybe save a bit more My role has changed, and I'm not in charge of a team any more, and have a weird floaty technical consultant role. Which is great for me honestly. I am not capable of deciding whether someone is doing good or not, and certainly can't motivate anyone. But I can do a lot of behind the scenes things to make people's lives easier, and I think that'd been appreciated, and I get more time to do that now. |
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masofdas The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23581 Points : 23965 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 33 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Fri 2 Apr 2021 - 20:33 | |
| Yeah not to worried about work, just would have been nice to have had a work based saving scheme, guess positive is getting a nice chunk in one go then over multiple years.
On the car front peeps basically said spend a tad more then I planned before getting this payout to get something nice but not all of it just on a car. |
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Buskalilly Farore

Posts : 14638 Points : 14810 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 33 Location : Nagano
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sat 3 Apr 2021 - 2:18 | |
| - Balladeer wrote:
- What will the new duties be, or will you be doing all the stuff you've been doing anyway and just getting more recognition for it?
Mostly doing all the stuff I've been doing anyway and just getting more recognition for it but I think there will be a little more in the way of actual human management; I'll actually have a small modicum of authority when I tell someone to buck their ideas up. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25900 Points : 24733 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 34 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sun 4 Apr 2021 - 11:36 | |
| You won't have to rely on raw charisma any more! Good luck boss, hope your journey towards becoming 'the man' is enjoyable and that the people you manage aren't gits. @masofdas and @Jimbob Hope your shifts in circumstances work out for you! And yep saving is good. |
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masofdas The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23581 Points : 23965 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 33 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sun 4 Apr 2021 - 11:52 | |
| Saving is good but surely goal of saving is it's used on something? Anyway going look around 7.5k not 10k for car. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25900 Points : 24733 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 34 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sun 4 Apr 2021 - 14:30 | |
| ...given that I've been both clever enough, in the specific way that society disproportionately rewards (mostly short-term fact recollection), and privileged enough to have more funds than most on here (I'd imagine), I probably shouldn't give anyone money advice! Also I save a huge chunk in not being able, nor needing, to drive.
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masofdas The Next Aonuma

Posts : 23581 Points : 23965 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 33 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sun 4 Apr 2021 - 14:54 | |
| I feel I've been clever these past 3 years to save what I have, and goal was buy place last year but as you know about my Dad, then I do need a car to get anywhere. |
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Muss Shiny Shuckle

Posts : 2557 Points : 2575 Join date : 2015-04-03 Location : The 5th Dimension
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Wed 19 Jan 2022 - 22:40 | |
| I'm not very happy at work.
I'm a senior administrative officer at a University, which is effectively a job spec that's one rung below manager or project leader.
Over the past 6 months I've written two apps and multiple automated workflows on projects that I've been leading. But this isn't a particularly recent thing, as far back as the start of the pandemic I wrote a QR scanner app that would register who was and wasn't in our buildings. Essentially, I'm doing work far above my pay grade, and have been doing so consistently for quite some time.
Recently our faculty went under an APM review, and everyone on fixed-term posts were made permanent. Except for me, and everyone else in "non-standard roles". This isn't how it was messaged until the thing went through. It was very much, everyone will be made permanent. So that sucked. Separate to this, I was also told that whilst leading the projects I'm on, I would be paid at the pay scale above me for the time spent on the project. This has not happened.
I'm pissed. I'm on a shitty fixed-term deal that precludes me from applying for any sort of mortgage, and I'm underpaid by the best part of 8k per year for the work I'm doing, or at the very least, the difference in hourly pay whilst working on projects above my grade.
I've been quite vocal with my team about my frustrations, and said I'd wait until the new year to see what was being done. I was assured there was a plan to at least make me permanent. As it happens, that plan is actually to keep me fixed-term, and I'm also not getting any extra pay. This is particularly shitty, because I was moved from a temp contract to a fixed-term contract a year ago in order to cover for a permanent member of staff who was on sabbatical. They aren't coming back, but instead of me having their permanent status as was the plan, I'm left fixed-term.
Tomorrow I'm in a meeting with all the various departments in our faculty with regards to the project I've been leading. Basically each school in the faculty has to report back on how they have handled the issue that's arose. That room will predominantly be filled with people doing the same workload for their departments on this issue but for double the money I make. And the worst part is, I know my system will be better than all of theirs. I already know I'm the only one who has written an app, automated all the bits that can be automated, and blah blah. This has made me feel sick all day.
I phoned my acting line manager to say I'd be handing in my notice as soon as I find something else. I don't even care if that pays less than what I earn now; I just can't stand knowing that I'm getting ripped off every time I sit at my desk, and that there aren't enough important people who give enough of a shit to fix it. It's untenable for me to look people in the eye and act nice when literally none of the things I've been promised have come to fruition. |
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Buskalilly Farore

Posts : 14638 Points : 14810 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 33 Location : Nagano
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Thu 20 Jan 2022 - 9:17 | |
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gjones Disciple of Scullion

Posts : 1627 Points : 1660 Join date : 2015-01-12 Age : 36 Location : Swindon
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Thu 20 Jan 2022 - 10:58 | |
| I've worked in higher education the past ten years and this doesn't surprise me. I saw it over Christmas, a valuable colleague in a similar position went elsewhere for an extra 7k salary. When his team heard about it, they offered to match the salary. It didn't work, because you shouldn't have to look elsewhere to feel valued in the first place. I left my last role as I was doing a bunch of stuff that wasn't in my job description, but they made the "role regrading" such a lengthy painful process (and then they just said no 12 months later) that I just left. Then you see the role advertised at a higher pay grade! Very frustrating.
Jobs.ac.uk is your friend, lots about (although I guess it depends on your location). |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25900 Points : 24733 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 34 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Fri 21 Jan 2022 - 20:48 | |
| Owch.  Sorry to read that Muss, hope you get a new good job soon! I presume you don't have any of the 'we were going to give you a pay rise' stuff in writing? That always helps with complaints. |
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Muss Shiny Shuckle

Posts : 2557 Points : 2575 Join date : 2015-04-03 Location : The 5th Dimension
 | Subject: Re: The Work Thread Sat 22 Jan 2022 - 13:15 | |
| Nothing concrete in writing boss, which does suck. My manager, currently signed off work and has been for quite some time now, did leave me a message about making me a higher pay grade in writing, but I don't think it's enough to go on. It wasn't super formal as such.
I've taken gjones' advice anyway and started going through the website he recommended. |
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