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Jimbob Rotating Platform

Posts : 4283 Points : 4308 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 39 Location : Milton Keynes
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sat 18 Jun 2022 - 9:54 | |
| - Balladeer wrote:
- MOON:
 Finally, we have this. Why did I buy this? I don't know. I regretted it roughly five seconds after taking control of the main character, and dealing with his treacly walking pace. moon is an old game, a slow game, a game requiring patience for trial and error, and a game with a hyperactive stamina meter that can quickly lead to a Game Over: none of which are things Balla's going to enjoy. I actually quite liked the way it looks, even now, with a sort of claymation-y aesthetic; and you can definitely see glimpses of why Toby Fox loved it, what with it parodying RPG conventions in the first ten minutes or so (and for the rest of its playtime). There's definitely some quirky and valuable material in here if you can look past the aged jank. As anybody who knows me will testify, I can't. So! If you were for some reason able to bear my misinformed takes on a game I was never going to enjoy anyway, here's a Fun Fact. There are actually three videogames called 'moon'! One was an FPS for the DS, amazingly; and the third was... an erotic horror visual novel. Released in the same year as this. So there's some food for thought.
You should try all 3 Moons and rank them in Andy's Tier Thread. Oh er  Outer Wilds was one of the best things ever, and Echoes of the Eye is almost as good with its idea. But it actually got a bit scary and I can't deal with this stuff any more, so I watched the rest of YouTube. You should still play these though. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25046 Points : 23878 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 32 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 22:23 | |
| Look. I can respect you thinking I'd try the eronovel, but - an FPS? On DS? Me!? You're wrong in the head, man. Meanwhile here's me twiddling my fingers for Outer Wilds on Switch. I'm hopeful that my love of exploratory gameplay will stop me from getting fed up with the timeloop aspect, but I need to play it first! EDIT:  While I won't go so far as to say I don't think I'm clever enough to finish Fez, I think I'd struggle. I've just opened the 16-cube door, got to a village with people speaking in what is clearly a decipherable language, and think I'll stop there. There have been major hints at some big world-spanning puzzles, but I need a better fast-travel system and less annoying traversal before I comb Fez's world for clues. On the whole, Fez left me cold. It's a quite poor platformer, barely elevated by its world-twisting mechanic beyond being outright bad at it; and in the surface layer I've scratched, it's been no more than an adequate puzzler. One 'puzzle' had me taking a picture of a QR code: cute, but not exactly satisfying to solve. The game's aesthetic is nice enough, but its world feels slightly off. I think that's intentional? It's quiet, mostly empty of obviously intelligent life, filled with arcane graffiti, and the whole thing gives me the creeps and makes me feel a bit lonely. That's been Fez's greatest quality so far, but it's not one I particularly care for. The real greatest quality is no doubt waiting for those with the wisdom and wherewithal to decipher that language, and in general the mysteries behind the world. I'll leave that to greater minds than mine. Does... does me not having the mentality to deal with big world-spanning puzzles in Fez mean I'm likely to bounce off Outer Wilds? I think it might, you know. |
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masofdas The Next Reggie

Posts : 22699 Points : 23055 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 32 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 22:33 | |
| Surprised you even bought the game, knowing how you feel about some people and companies. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25046 Points : 23878 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 32 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 22:37 | |
| I tried to do some digging into Phil Fish and what exactly he's done that's so bad. It seems like he's an angry man who's had some shouty feuds, but hasn't actually done anything too awful? Maybe wasn't great to work with, but doesn't seem to have harassed anybody. If I've missed something then please let me know: happy to admit that I've made a cock-up! |
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Crumpy Andy The Sausage to Go For

Posts : 4744 Points : 4751 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 29 Location : The South
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 9:44 | |
| Fez and Outer Wilds are miles apart. I don't think there are many who truly got there with Fez. I enjoyed it a bit, but not enouhg to see it through. Mind you I gave up on Outer Wilds as I found it to be a wee bit too fiddly so what do I know? |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25046 Points : 23878 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 32 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 11:31 | |
| Good to read; although in the quickest about-turn on here since, and possibly past, Treesmurf's Eastward take, I've cracked back on with Fez.  I got to the 32-cube door, but reading a walkthrough found out that there are two more regions to find cubes in. Thought I needed to go for anticubes! It's still unlikely to make my top Switch games, but I might yet reach the (first) ending. |
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masofdas The Next Reggie

Posts : 22699 Points : 23055 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 32 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 13:01 | |
| Didn't he threaten to kill someone whilst making Fez, would say that's harassment. Didn't he also say women can get away with sequel harassment because they're women. |
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Buskalilly Naga

Posts : 13969 Points : 14135 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 31 Location : Nagano
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 13:04 | |
| Yeah, but you have to make certain exceptions for a fish. They're used to a kill-or-be-killed existence, what with sharks and that, plus the males squirt their seed pretty willy-nilly, it probably is easy for a woman to slip her eggs under there and get away with it. |
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masofdas The Next Reggie

Posts : 22699 Points : 23055 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 32 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 13:56 | |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25046 Points : 23878 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 32 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 21:09 | |
| - masofdas wrote:
- Didn't he threaten to kill someone whilst making Fez, would say that's harassment. Didn't he also say women can get away with sequel harassment because they're women.
Possibly? But I put the same query to another community and they said the same as me: angry man whose anger the Internet amplified, and that's it. I'm going to need a source for this Mas. Not that I think anybody's going to be giving him money on my recommendation anyway... |
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masofdas The Next Reggie

Posts : 22699 Points : 23055 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 32 Location : VITA Island
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 21:30 | |
| Yeah feel you're right, more I just felt you wouldn't support a douche. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS

Posts : 25046 Points : 23878 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 32 Location : Admintown
 | Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 22:13 | |
| Meh. You know what they say: 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.' And while I don't like people using that as an excuse to buy anything without consideration, I think it means you need to draw a line on the spectrum, pick the shade of grey you're unwilling to go beyond. 'Merely' 'a douche' I can stomach: beyond that, it gets iffy. |
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