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PostSubject: Re: Random retro thoughts   Tue 4 Dec 2018 - 15:28

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I've gone and looked at the Top 20 PS2 games on Metacritic as you know I'm not a big PS2 fan but I was trying to work out what might be on a PS2 Classic

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Grand Theft Auto III
Resident Evil 4
Metal Gear Solid 2
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
Madden NFL 2003
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Devil May Cry
Madden NFL 2002
Madden NFL 2004
Metal Gear Solid 3
NCAA Football 2004
God of War
Virtua Fighter 4
Burnout 3: Takedown
God of War II
SSX
SSX 3

That's a pretty awful Top 20 but the user Top 20 is miles better

I have no interest in american football, but otherwise those are all fantastic games
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PostSubject: Re: Random retro thoughts   Tue 4 Dec 2018 - 15:30

Compared to the user Top 20 it's not great, not much variety also not many exclusives along with most being better on Xbox.
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PostSubject: Re: Random retro thoughts   Tue 4 Dec 2018 - 21:31

masofdas wrote:
Compared to the user Top 20 it's not great

I can feel the bitterness through my screen.

The user Top 20 is worse than the standard Top 20. Ignore the NFL games as they aren't ever getting re-released, and there's no comparison...

Top 20

1. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
2. Grand Theft Auto III
3. Resident Evil 4
4. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
5. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
6. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
7. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
8. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
9. Devil May Cry
10. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
11. God of War
12. Virtua Fighter 4
13. Burnout 3: Takedown
14. God of War II
15. SSX
16. SSX 3
17. Okami
18. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
19. Soul Calibur II
20. SSX Tricky

User Top 20
1. Dark Chronicle
2. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
3. Kingdom Hearts II
4. Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
5. Okami
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Suikoden V
8. God Hand
9. Final Fantasy X
10. Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Vell
11. Silent Hill 2
12. Drakan: The Ancients' Gates
13. Kingdom Hearts
14. Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny
15. Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
16. War of the Monsters
17. Dynasty Warriors 4
18. Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
19. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
20. Culdcept

masofdas wrote:
not much variety

The User Top 20 has a bunch of turn-based Japanese RPGs, two Ratchet & Clanks, two Metal Gears and an obscure card game...

masofdas wrote:
also not many exclusives along

This doesn't matter, given it's to do with system-defining titles. Pretty much all of the games synonymous with PS1 weren't exclusive (Tomb Raider, WipeOut, GTA, Resident Evil). A PS2 mini would definitely need the GTA games, the Metal Gears and the God of Wars - not Drakan and Dynasty Warriors 4.

masofdas wrote:
with most being better on Xbox.

Burnout and SSX looked a bit better, is what you mean.
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PostSubject: Re: Random retro thoughts   Tue 4 Dec 2018 - 21:47

User Top 20 is more like this as lot's of games have a 9 from users that I then looked at the critic score, hence why no Draken

Dark Cloud 2
Kingdom Hearts II
Ratchet & Clank Up Your Arsenal
Okami
Shadow of the Colossus
Resident Evil 4
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Metal Gear Solid 3
Burnout 3
Final Fantasy X
Klonoa 2
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
Silent Hill 2
Sly 2: Band of Thieves
Devil May Cry 3
Metal Gear Solid 2
Bully
Kingdom Hearts
Onimusha 2
TOCA Race Driver 2: The Ultimate Racing Simulator

That to me is better than either you posted but I do think you're right it doesn't need to be 20 exclusives and should have the likes of GTA but not half or more of the games to be multiformat that are better elsewhere even without online now.
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